View Poll Results: prop 8
yes
19
28.79%
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71.21%
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If you are going to quote the bible do not do so selectively, there are plenty of passages where god condones homsexuality, if not even outright endorseing it. If you are going to take the word of the bible as a guide as to how to live your life then you better accumulate several more wives, some slaves and start farming. The bible is a book of stories intended to be interpreted as to how to lead a righteous life, the words have been twisted and tainted to promote the message of bigots, which is exactly what god and the bible are intended to be against. Hide behind the veil of religion if you so choose but that doesn't make your beliefs any less hateful or bigoted.
Step up to the plate and start answering the questions I gave you.
You aren't getting the argument are you? I don't care if they teach Unions, I don't want them teaching that gays can marry because I believe that is between a man and a woman. Please try to understand the argument.
By calling gay union marriage it proclaims that it is inherently right because marriage is inherently right.
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Its not a belief, marriage is not a religious ceremony first and foremost, it is a legal ceremony. Some choose to make it a religious ceremony, but that does not mean marriage is first and foremost a religious ceremony.
I'll be back when you are done spewing the mud that's already been discussed and catch up three days. When you post your answers to my questions 
Because I am looking forward to hearing what you've got to say, with no spin.
Because I am looking forward to hearing what you've got to say, with no spin.
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hmm. i'll have to inquire with my accountant next year when doing my taxes. every time i've tried it myself, married - joint seems to get the best returns, but it's still less than if we were not married.
the medical benefits topic was brought up in this thread, my response is that regardless of actually being married, a committed couple can share medical benefits through one partners employer.
the medical benefits topic was brought up in this thread, my response is that regardless of actually being married, a committed couple can share medical benefits through one partners employer.
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Although I do not agree with most of the against arguments I do get sick and tired of the elitist "So, you're a bigot then?" remarks. What about one's right to be completely appalled and disgusted with the idea? They have a voice too and shouldn't be chastised for their votable position on the measure.
–noun a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Based on the definition of bigot those who hate gays for no reason other than the fact they are gay are indeed bigots.
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Don't be ignorant. There were many studies about androgen factors and multiple male births, and diet pill exposures leading to this birth defect. The reason why scientists really don't want to touch this subject is due to the militant nature of this vocal minority.
Do you think prenatal treatment, monitoring, or aborting gay fetuses wouldn't be a factor? While our society tolerates gays, our society wouldn't tolerate vaccinating against gayness.
Plus, just think of what it would due to the fashion industry.
Do you think prenatal treatment, monitoring, or aborting gay fetuses wouldn't be a factor? While our society tolerates gays, our society wouldn't tolerate vaccinating against gayness.
Plus, just think of what it would due to the fashion industry.
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How is a yes vote against equal rights? How does one decide that a homosexual couple should have the right to marry or not marry? And how does one then, in fairness, determine the difference between allowing everyone to choose who they want to marry and just homo/heterosexuals?
For example, mormons wanting multiple marriages or maybe some others wanting incestious marriage? Inherently, following the some line of thinking and argument of "let people marry who they want" it would definitely be discrimination to allow these groups not to marry who they want like everyone else.
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For example, mormons wanting multiple marriages or maybe some others wanting incestious marriage? Inherently, following the some line of thinking and argument of "let people marry who they want" it would definitely be discrimination to allow these groups not to marry who they want like everyone else.
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I am against incestuous marriage based on scientific evidence showing negative affects to offspring. And if mormons want to have several wives, and all parties involved are OK with it, who am I to tell them they cannot?
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You can be against gay mariage for religious reasons if you so please, however you cannot use your beliefs to deny people rights they are entitled to by the constituion of both California and the United States of America.
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Case in point: I really love another woman, I'm married to my wife(who, btw, would like another woman) yet we can't get married.
Is that fair?
No, it's not.
If it doesn't, it should.
That is one of the most ignorant arguments I have ever heard in my entire life. Allowing gay people to marry will not mean all of the sudden brothers will be getting married, or that dogs and people will be getting married. First of all, an animal can never marry a person if for no other reason than they cannot legally consent to such a thing, they cannot sign the marriage license so it is an impossibility. Secondly, science has shown the negative results of those who are related being married and pro-creating. That is a ridiculous argument and anyone with any sort of education should know better than to make a moronic case such as that.
OK, you got me on the animal marriage.
But let's look at the "science" of marriage and procreation.
Please explain how two homosexual men or two homosexual women can reproduce?
So if the Supreme Court overturns Prop 8, what will you say?
Why is it right?
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Everyone keeps mentioning "rights", but don't elaborate.
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Believe it or not, I actually do have to work and do other things. I dont have time to go find my notes from my bible as literature course and reference these specific passages to you, but believe me, they are there. Such as when I believe it is Joshua us wrestling with an angel and their feet touch. Feet is a biblical reference to male genetalia, just like the word know is a biblical reference to sex.