View Poll Results: prop 8
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19
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Look, I know gay people and despite me being appalled by their way of life I still respect their rights and do get along with most. But the only ignorant standpoint is the assumption that homosexuality is concrete.
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And what do you proclaim to be if not a talking head leading blind thoughtless masses to believe gay marriage is okay?
Everyone can read the Word and come to their own conclusion. No one is forcing anyone to believe it. The majority of Americans CHOOSE to believe the Word of God.
Everyone can read the Word and come to their own conclusion. No one is forcing anyone to believe it. The majority of Americans CHOOSE to believe the Word of God.
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But they dont have that either, and they should have the right to marry, just like you and I do. Your only justification for not allowing them to marry is that they are gay, i.e. they are different than you and I. You seem to think it is OK for me to get married, even though I am not the least bit religious, yet you do not believe that two men or two women should be able to get married just becuase they are the same sex. If you argue that it is a religious ceremony then you would believe that I too have no right be get married. If you are going to be against gay marriage for a reason, at least be consistent with your reasoning.
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He's actually right. Blindly sticking with semantics doesn't do much to make a case for your argument. It also doesn't sound like you've done any reading into the concerns of same-sex couples. Nothing a little research can't help with!
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Aside from the fact that you have the right to personally hate all of the above, there's a fine line between homosexuality and race. First off, there's no substantial evidence to suggest being gay is genetic. There's also no substantial evidence to the contrary that it may a chemical imbalance or social defect. I can give articles on both so which is it? My point is until it's undeniably proven to be an irreversible genetic defect, you can still choose to procreate or not choose the Hershey highway just as a person with Alcoholism - a so-called genetic defect - can put the bottle down an act right. You can't change race.
Look, I know gay people and despite me being appalled by their way of life I still respect their rights and do get along with most. But the only ignorant standpoint is the assumption that homosexuality is concrete.
Look, I know gay people and despite me being appalled by their way of life I still respect their rights and do get along with most. But the only ignorant standpoint is the assumption that homosexuality is concrete.
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Considering the Europeans decided to include themselves in the traditions of the Greeks/Romans, and that Constantius and Constans decided to alter the tradition @ 342 BC (one among many other alterations over time), I would offer a resounding yes.
He's actually right. Blindly sticking with semantics doesn't do much to make a case for your argument. It also doesn't sound like you've done any reading into the concerns of same-sex couples. Nothing a little research can't help with!
He's actually right. Blindly sticking with semantics doesn't do much to make a case for your argument. It also doesn't sound like you've done any reading into the concerns of same-sex couples. Nothing a little research can't help with!
Nor do I claim to be God. More than nine in 10 Americans—95 percent—told ABC News polltakers that they believe in God. Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. Most of the rest, 13 percent, have no religion. That leaves just 4 percent as adherents of all non-Christian religions combined — Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and a smattering of individual mentions. Both from ABC News articles and polls.
So the majority of Americans do know "what the powers to be REALLY like" based on the word of God.
So the majority of Americans do know "what the powers to be REALLY like" based on the word of God.
Just like how I believe in god, and you believe in god, and some folks don't believe in god, some folks believe in trees and others in stars, and so on.
We have beliefs, and we KNOW nothing for certain.
But they dont have that either, and they should have the right to marry, just like you and I do. Your only justification for not allowing them to marry is that they are gay, i.e. they are different than you and I. You seem to think it is OK for me to get married, even though I am not the least bit religious, yet you do not believe that two men or two women should be able to get married just becuase they are the same sex. If you argue that it is a religious ceremony then you would believe that I too have no right be get married. If you are going to be against gay marriage for a reason, at least be consistent with your reasoning.
One who truly believes in God is certain.
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Nor do I claim to be God. More than nine in 10 Americans—95 percent—told ABC News polltakers that they believe in God. Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. Most of the rest, 13 percent, have no religion. That leaves just 4 percent as adherents of all non-Christian religions combined — Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and a smattering of individual mentions. Both from ABC News articles and polls.
So the majority of Americans do know "what the powers to be REALLY like" based on the word of God.
So the majority of Americans do know "what the powers to be REALLY like" based on the word of God.
Catholic: 50,873,000
Baptist (unspecified): 33,830,000
Protestant Non-Denom: 4,647,000
Methodist: 14,150,000
Lutheran: 9,580,000
Non-Denominational 14,150,000
Separate Orthodoxy Christians (included as Christian)
Total: 4,804,000
Mormon: 2,787,000
Jehovah's Witnesses: 1,331,000
Christian Science: 194,000
Disciples of Christ: 492,000
Total Other Religions: 5,853,000
Judaism: 3,137,000
Muslim: 527,000
Buddhist: 401,000
Unitarian: 502,000
Hindu: 227,000
Total No Religion: 14,331,000
That is census bureau data.
http://www.digitaldivide.net/blog/Re...ew?PostID=8609
Might want to read that too.
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I will not fight for a union, I will fight for equality and equality is marriage. I do not discriminate based on age, race, gender or sexual orientation and everyone should be entitled to the same rights, not similar rights using different semantics.
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If a homosexual couple wish to form a union/marriage, in order to receive the same governmental protection/benefits/etc as heterosexual couples, then the laws need to be changed to accommodate homosexuals.
I'm not arguing that homosexuals should or should not have the "right" to get married.
I am arguing that since marriage is not a right, the government, and by extension the people, have a right to limit who can and can not get married.
I have mentioned polygamy several times since there are laws in place that prohibit polygamous marriages.
If one type of marriage is allowed, then all types of marriages must be allowed.
Is this something you really want?
Aside from the fact that you have the right to personally hate all of the above, there's a fine line between homosexuality and race. First off, there's no substantial evidence to suggest being gay is genetic. There's also no substantial evidence to the contrary that it may a chemical imbalance or social defect. I can give articles on both so which is it? My point is until it's undeniably proven to be an irreversible genetic defect, you can still choose to procreate or not choose the Hershey highway just as a person with Alcoholism - a so-called genetic defect - can put the bottle down an act right. You can't change race.
Look, I know gay people and despite me being appalled by their way of life I still respect their rights and do get along with most. But the only ignorant standpoint is the assumption that homosexuality is concrete.
Look, I know gay people and despite me being appalled by their way of life I still respect their rights and do get along with most. But the only ignorant standpoint is the assumption that homosexuality is concrete.
Since we don't know you can't really say one way or the other, but regardless of the origin, I feel the right to marry should be there since marriage is legal and open to hetero couples.
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Baing gay is not a choice. I personally wouldn't choose to subject myself to a life like that, being afraid to reveal my true self becuase I dont know how that will change how other view me as a person. People are born gay, and despite extremest church groups who might want to tell you otherwise, there is no way to become "ungay" through any means other than denying your primal instincts.
What if there was a pill that cured being gay? Even if one refused to take it in order to maintain his or her lifestyle, they should still possess the same exact rights as every human being. I'll agree with this being the patriot I consider myself to be.
On the other hand...
What if one is too short to ride the fastest roller coasted in the world. **** second place he wants to ride the biggest and baddest of them all! But he'll will be damned because Mom was a dwarf. Now he'll never be able to have to share what others have. Should we accommodate him? Is is his right for us to bow to his wants and build a new coaster even if he was born with it? I don't think so.