View Poll Results: prop 8
yes
19
28.79%
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47
71.21%
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Don't be ignorant. There were many studies about androgen factors and multiple male births, and diet pill exposures leading to this birth defect. The reason why scientists really don't want to touch this subject is due to the militant nature of this vocal minority.
Do you think prenatal treatment, monitoring, or aborting gay fetuses wouldn't be a factor? While our society tolerates gays, our society wouldn't tolerate vaccinating against gayness.
Plus, just think of what it would due to the fashion industry.
Do you think prenatal treatment, monitoring, or aborting gay fetuses wouldn't be a factor? While our society tolerates gays, our society wouldn't tolerate vaccinating against gayness.
Plus, just think of what it would due to the fashion industry.
You are CRAZY! I dont care if they get married. Like I said Let them deal with marriage just liek I do. They will see its not that awesome. Howver I am 100% against drinking and driving. I have yanked friends spark plug wires so they wouldnt drive.
I was reading through some of the post and the bible got brought up. Too far back to quote. Anyway. This is my thought on this
SO the bible was written a long ****ing time ago right. Some of the books are 1000's of years. my point is this. Who knows what is in the bible is right. No one these days. The bible was written by scholars of the time. Written by people who were educated. That being said Education was not top priority for everyone. Only the rich benefit from a education. So when the bible was written who was to argue with anything it said. Most of the population could not even read. SO whatever some guy wanted the bible to say non could read or write to retort any of it.
And on another topic. SOme people say not to let gays get married, let them have their domestic partnerships they get all the same rights. THIS IS NOT TRUE. My wife and I were together for a long time before we got married. Her benefits through her job were way cheaper than mine. SO we were listed as Domestic Partners so I could get benefits. We each paid 50% of the cost of living and had been together for X amount of time so we could be considered domestic partners.
However that is still not the same as it is now that we are married. The benefits are even cheaper now cuz I am considered a spouse. If something happens to me my wife has the ability to decide if they pull the plug or keep me alive.
If you are just in a domestic partnership, regardless how long for. If something happens to your partner, you have no say over what is best for them. Lets say there is a couple been together for 20 years. Guy/Chick #1 is in a horrible accident and is put on life support Guy/Chick #2 have mno rights or say whether to leave the love of their life on it or not becuase Guy/CHick#2's family has 100% say in what happens to that persons life. Even if that was me and my wife before we were married, we are common law marriage if were were together for that long but I have no legal standing with what happens to her in that case.
I think that is bull**** and thats why they should be able to get married. Wo are we to decide who can and cant be married. I think Lboogie put it best.
I said something similar but he worded it the best.
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I was reading through some of the post and the bible got brought up. Too far back to quote. Anyway. This is my thought on this
SO the bible was written a long ****ing time ago right. Some of the books are 1000's of years. my point is this. Who knows what is in the bible is right. No one these days. The bible was written by scholars of the time. Written by people who were educated. That being said Education was not top priority for everyone. Only the rich benefit from a education. So when the bible was written who was to argue with anything it said. Most of the population could not even read. SO whatever some guy wanted the bible to say non could read or write to retort any of it.
And on another topic. SOme people say not to let gays get married, let them have their domestic partnerships they get all the same rights. THIS IS NOT TRUE. My wife and I were together for a long time before we got married. Her benefits through her job were way cheaper than mine. SO we were listed as Domestic Partners so I could get benefits. We each paid 50% of the cost of living and had been together for X amount of time so we could be considered domestic partners.
However that is still not the same as it is now that we are married. The benefits are even cheaper now cuz I am considered a spouse. If something happens to me my wife has the ability to decide if they pull the plug or keep me alive.
If you are just in a domestic partnership, regardless how long for. If something happens to your partner, you have no say over what is best for them. Lets say there is a couple been together for 20 years. Guy/Chick #1 is in a horrible accident and is put on life support Guy/Chick #2 have mno rights or say whether to leave the love of their life on it or not becuase Guy/CHick#2's family has 100% say in what happens to that persons life. Even if that was me and my wife before we were married, we are common law marriage if were were together for that long but I have no legal standing with what happens to her in that case.
I think that is bull**** and thats why they should be able to get married. Wo are we to decide who can and cant be married. I think Lboogie put it best.
I said something similar but he worded it the best.
I cant wait for this ****ING election to be over.
Those are some strong words about the most historically backed up religion on the planet with the most physical evidence and original documentation as I'm sure Roo could tell you
I didn't see anyone talk about domestic parternship. I saw people post that gays should have a Union like Marriage which gives them rights upon entering into that Union like Marriage, not like the extended duration a couple must be together to enjoy the rights of domestic partnership.
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i was responding to the post about a connection made between "black struggles" and prop 8... AA, which was supposed to be about equality did nothing but open more doors for *****ing and close doors to those that actually earned the position...all to be more fair and equal...seems hella fair to me...and we are still dealing with it...
you vote no on 8 and then all of a sudden you got scam marriages for financial gains, you have less than solid family foundations, lawsuits over non-equality (sound familiar?) , etc..
voting yes on 8 doesnt mean you HATE gay people, thats the most ignorant reoccurring theme in this thread...it just means you value traditional marriage
you vote no on 8 and then all of a sudden you got scam marriages for financial gains, you have less than solid family foundations, lawsuits over non-equality (sound familiar?) , etc..
voting yes on 8 doesnt mean you HATE gay people, thats the most ignorant reoccurring theme in this thread...it just means you value traditional marriage
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whoa where do you get that?? im sure they could raise a child just fine, and be just as trustworthy (for your other comment), its how a child would respond to 2 mommys or 2 daddys. we are a blend of what our parents instill in us, change that and you have people with something missing...think about a stereotypical counseling session where the doc says that the client acts out because of no dad in the picture or mom was an alky (hence, not really there) or WHATEVER...thats gonna be a whole population of ****ed up kids
look, this is obviously snowballing fast...im sure it wont pass, just like we have illegal immigrants that can get loans without ID, and hand out foodstamps to people that own benzes
my point is that just because you vote yes doesnt mean you hate gays and anytime someone stands up for that its just like AA, i must hate black people too...oh wait, i have gay and black friends...holy ****, i must be confused
look, this is obviously snowballing fast...im sure it wont pass, just like we have illegal immigrants that can get loans without ID, and hand out foodstamps to people that own benzes
my point is that just because you vote yes doesnt mean you hate gays and anytime someone stands up for that its just like AA, i must hate black people too...oh wait, i have gay and black friends...holy ****, i must be confused
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Man I never knew so many people in the bay area sucked the bibles **** so hard. Seriously.......
I think gays are about 1000X better than mormons. And frankly I don't think much of the Christian religion, I don't agree with it but I'm not trying to ban it...
Look at most of the **** change everybody else mentality, it's all pushed my Christians...
well shove it up your *** nobody wants to read you quoting scripture seriously WTF.
It's funny, religion is just a place for people to dwell in once they have totally ****ed their lives up and need someone to blame so they don't have to hate themselves.
Personally I have more interesting, real stuff to do.........not made up garbage that isn't even interesting.
I think gays are about 1000X better than mormons. And frankly I don't think much of the Christian religion, I don't agree with it but I'm not trying to ban it...
Look at most of the **** change everybody else mentality, it's all pushed my Christians...
well shove it up your *** nobody wants to read you quoting scripture seriously WTF.
It's funny, religion is just a place for people to dwell in once they have totally ****ed their lives up and need someone to blame so they don't have to hate themselves.
Personally I have more interesting, real stuff to do.........not made up garbage that isn't even interesting.
As for accusing Christians for a "**** change everybody else mentality" I think that, to say the least, is a little misguided. Specifically, what makes you say that? Facts please
And don't align people with conservative values with necessarily being Christians, that might be seen as being discriminatory 
Are you saying that the only religious people are people who have screwed up their lives? Oh, and who do they blame? Last I checked the Bible preached accountability, but once again you can also ask Roo and he'll tell you.
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back the the child. if your child is eatin only candy and chocolate, and you take the junk away from them, are you playing God because you think its wrong? not necessarily. you just want the best for your child.
i chose to go to church since i was 16. never forced into anything.
i chose to go to church since i was 16. never forced into anything.
For example, mormons wanting multiple marriages or maybe some others wanting incestious marriage? Inherently, following the some line of thinking and argument of "let people marry who they want" it would definitely be discrimination to allow these groups not to marry who they want like everyone else.
Good answer please
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I agree that everyone is going to have their own opinions.
I am Yes on 8 due to my OWN opinions and religious beliefs. There are ways for homosexual couples to have the same benefits as straight couples. Marriage is a religious ceremony in my eyes. Just my .02 cents...
I am Yes on 8 due to my OWN opinions and religious beliefs. There are ways for homosexual couples to have the same benefits as straight couples. Marriage is a religious ceremony in my eyes. Just my .02 cents...
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I guess you have never heard of the seperation of church and state have you? Religion, and religious beliefs have no part in running our government.
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Show me where I bashed religion. I said religious beliefs have no part in government. If you have a problem with gays, fine, so be it, but you do not have the right to deny them of rights that all human beings are entitled to.
Why is homosexuality wrong? You do not address that issue. And dont tell me being gay is wrong becuse the bible says so, I could go through the bible and find hundreds of instances where there is homosexuality in the bible, promoted by god. Dont tell me it is unnatural either, homosexuality occurs in nature all of the time, it is a perfectly natural act. You have been brainwashed into thinking something is wrong for no particular reason and you have no right to force your beliefs on others and deny them of the rights they are entitled to as human beings.
Oh and maybe some from Soddom and Gomorra
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Where did I say it was a constitutional right? I said it was a human right. Also, I guess you have failed to read the pre-amble where it declares we are all entitled to the unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.