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Well, there IS some hope out there. Suit challenging CA 10 day wait period!!:
Silvester v. Harris Case Update (CGF's Second Amendment challenge to 10-day waiting period ban) | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation
Silvester v. Harris Case Update (CGF's Second Amendment challenge to 10-day waiting period ban) | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation
The WPL as applied against those who have previously purchased firearms or who possess
certain state licenses is the equivalent of a prior restraint, and thus should be analyzed under strict
scrutiny. However, under either strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny, the [10-day waiting period] fails. In terms
of strict scrutiny, Harris has not shown that the law is effective either in reducing gun violence or
in keeping firearms out of the hands of unqualified purchasers where the government has already
issued that purchaser a License To Carry or a Certificate Of Eligibility.
In terms of intermediate scrutiny, neither of the bases argued by Harris is sufficient. There
is no indication that the WPL is necessary to weed out unqualified purchasers. While it is
appropriate to have a background check, the current systems and data available do not make the
10-day waiting period reasonable. In terms of cooling-off, there is no evidence to support the
efficacy of the law in preventing impulsive firearm violence. Moreover, for those who already
legally possess firearms, the WPL would have no effect in terms of creating a “cooling off”
period. Any spontaneous desire to perform a violent act can be manifested through the weapon
that is already in the individual’s possession. Because the WPL fails intermediate and strict
scrutiny, Harris’s motion must be denied.
certain state licenses is the equivalent of a prior restraint, and thus should be analyzed under strict
scrutiny. However, under either strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny, the [10-day waiting period] fails. In terms
of strict scrutiny, Harris has not shown that the law is effective either in reducing gun violence or
in keeping firearms out of the hands of unqualified purchasers where the government has already
issued that purchaser a License To Carry or a Certificate Of Eligibility.
In terms of intermediate scrutiny, neither of the bases argued by Harris is sufficient. There
is no indication that the WPL is necessary to weed out unqualified purchasers. While it is
appropriate to have a background check, the current systems and data available do not make the
10-day waiting period reasonable. In terms of cooling-off, there is no evidence to support the
efficacy of the law in preventing impulsive firearm violence. Moreover, for those who already
legally possess firearms, the WPL would have no effect in terms of creating a “cooling off”
period. Any spontaneous desire to perform a violent act can be manifested through the weapon
that is already in the individual’s possession. Because the WPL fails intermediate and strict
scrutiny, Harris’s motion must be denied.
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Sunnyvale sucks.
I almost got arrested outside of reeds in santa clara by officer saveahoe.
When i first bought a rifle and didnt know the specific laws.
Shotgun is unloaded, open action with trigger lock in an unlocked case inside of a locked tonneau cover....and i almost went to jail. But i can have an unlocked firearm of my choice in a locked bag in the cab of the car just out of reach.
And to anyone who knows why the pistol range was closed @ los altos until they redid the backing on the hill.....its cause i was hit with a ricochet about a year ago!!!!! And all i got was 2 free passes....lol.
I almost got arrested outside of reeds in santa clara by officer saveahoe.
When i first bought a rifle and didnt know the specific laws.
Shotgun is unloaded, open action with trigger lock in an unlocked case inside of a locked tonneau cover....and i almost went to jail. But i can have an unlocked firearm of my choice in a locked bag in the cab of the car just out of reach.
And to anyone who knows why the pistol range was closed @ los altos until they redid the backing on the hill.....its cause i was hit with a ricochet about a year ago!!!!! And all i got was 2 free passes....lol.
You could have had that long gun laying out on the front seat of your car, if you wanted to. California still allows for the open carrying of unloaded long guns. Hell, over the summer I saw a dude riding a KTM on HWY9 with an SKS slung over his back. Murica.
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Sounds like that cop needs to read the actual law before issuing threats.
You could have had that long gun laying out on the front seat of your car, if you wanted to. California still allows for the open carrying of unloaded long guns. Hell, over the summer I saw a dude riding a KTM on HWY9 with an SKS slung over his back. Murica.
May still be legal but the police seem to have more support on their side now.
And i think the back woods of santa cruz county up and down highway 9 are full of people who just dont care.
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Open carry vs transportation. You can carry an unloaded shotgun in the open in your vehicle. Slung, while on a bike would be the same situation (IMO).
Now, once you get off that transportation, you better be at home or a range, because carrying it around with you in public IS open carry, and now illegal.
Now, once you get off that transportation, you better be at home or a range, because carrying it around with you in public IS open carry, and now illegal.
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Open carry vs transportation. You can carry an unloaded shotgun in the open in your vehicle. Slung, while on a bike would be the same situation (IMO).
Now, once you get off that transportation, you better be at home or a range, because carrying it around with you in public IS open carry, and now illegal.
Now, once you get off that transportation, you better be at home or a range, because carrying it around with you in public IS open carry, and now illegal.
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It's technically illegal to keep a firearm in the car in any condition unless to are transporting directly to or from a gun range or hunting activity.
I know a certain someone here who had several firearms temporarily confiscated by SJPD when found in the trunk during a routine traffic stop
I know a certain someone here who had several firearms temporarily confiscated by SJPD when found in the trunk during a routine traffic stop
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A while back i was sold a sig p250 from a LEO in san mateo.
He handed me his high cap mag outside fully assembled lol.
I ended up selling it and doing the same thing to the guy i sold it to since it was of no use to me.
I love off list transfers!
He handed me his high cap mag outside fully assembled lol.
I ended up selling it and doing the same thing to the guy i sold it to since it was of no use to me.
I love off list transfers!
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It's technically illegal to keep a firearm in the car in any condition unless to are transporting directly to or from a gun range or hunting activity.
I know a certain someone here who had several firearms temporarily confiscated by SJPD when found in the trunk during a routine traffic stop
I know a certain someone here who had several firearms temporarily confiscated by SJPD when found in the trunk during a routine traffic stop
Traveling with Firearms in California
HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 25610 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code sections 16850.
SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES
Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code sections 30510, 30515, or 30520 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code sections 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g).
REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS
California Penal Code section 30945 provides that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and stored in a locked container when transported.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code section 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g).
HANDGUNS
California Penal Code section 25610 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code sections 16850.
SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES
Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 25400 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code sections 30510, 30515, or 30520 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code sections 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g).
REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS
California Penal Code section 30945 provides that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and stored in a locked container when transported.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code section 16850, 25610, and 30945, subdivision (g).
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So my Taurus CT9 was denied by DOJ saying it requires a "bullet button" style tool mag release. The shop I bought it from has it reserved for me and it is paid for, but they can't legally turn it over to me now. SO, they are working with gunsmith to create a bullet button kit for it to make it compliant (at additional cost to me...) 
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So my Taurus CT9 was denied by DOJ saying it requires a "bullet button" style tool mag release. The shop I bought it from has it reserved for me and it is paid for, but they can't legally turn it over to me now. SO, they are working with gunsmith to create a bullet button kit for it to make it compliant (at additional cost to me...)
I have a radlock on my carbine. A couple turns with a screwdriver and you're a felon!
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Thought I'd share my AR-15 with you guys.
POF P415 NP3 coated, 14.5" barrel, all abi controls, Magpul pistol grip, ubr stock, gen 2 rail covers, grip pod, vortex 3x9x40, troy back up sights, kriptonite k15 laser(took off), tactical latch on the charging handle, QD sling swivels, magpul QD attachment added to the front of the rail at the 6 o'clock position after this pic.
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