Solyndra - lock out this morning
09-02-2011, 01:10 PM
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Tesla was going to be given money to build a plant, but when NUMI went down, that changed. I don't know if they ended up taking that money or not, but the money came from somewhere for them to cut the deal with Toyota. AFAIK, it is a similar deal to what GM had - Toyota owns it (or the land) but Tesla operates it.
09-02-2011, 01:18 PM
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Tesla was going to be given money to build a plant, but when NUMI went down, that changed. I don't know if they ended up taking that money or not, but the money came from somewhere for them to cut the deal with Toyota. AFAIK, it is a similar deal to what GM had - Toyota owns it (or the land) but Tesla operates it.
I just did a search and came up with this one amongst like 25 others talking about Tesla and grants... this one mentions what Ford took.
So no Ford did not take the bail out but they did take a HUGE grant for electric tech research. I knew I read they took money somewhere... $6 BILLION.
Tesla, Ford, Nissan all receive electric car development loans from US government -- Engadget
09-02-2011, 01:36 PM
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My cousin sent me an article about some dude out in Alabama or some ****. Dude was like 24 years old. Had 9 kids. NINE kids. No job. Welfare check of $1500 a month for each kid. Plus all the other aid he could gather. Was bringing in $160,000 a year for free. And now that he died his kids will more than likely ALL get social security checks until they're 18 or someone else takes responsibility for them.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
09-02-2011, 01:57 PM
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AFAIK, you have to pay welfare back once you do get a job, so it ain't exactly free. Not exactly a good system since that gives you no incentive to get a job 
09-02-2011, 02:14 PM
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My cousin sent me an article about some dude out in Alabama or some ****. Dude was like 24 years old. Had 9 kids. NINE kids. No job. Welfare check of $1500 a month for each kid. Plus all the other aid he could gather. Was bringing in $160,000 a year for free. And now that he died his kids will more than likely ALL get social security checks until they're 18 or someone else takes responsibility for them.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
09-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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My cousin sent me an article about some dude out in Alabama or some ****. Dude was like 24 years old. Had 9 kids. NINE kids. No job. Welfare check of $1500 a month for each kid. Plus all the other aid he could gather. Was bringing in $160,000 a year for free. And now that he died his kids will more than likely ALL get social security checks until they're 18 or someone else takes responsibility for them.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
09-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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I know it was back and forth for a while but I'm pretty sure they ended up taking it.
I just did a search and came up with this one amongst like 25 others talking about Tesla and grants... this one mentions what Ford took.
So no Ford did not take the bail out but they did take a HUGE grant for electric tech research. I knew I read they took money somewhere... $6 BILLION.
Tesla, Ford, Nissan all receive electric car development loans from US government -- Engadget
I just did a search and came up with this one amongst like 25 others talking about Tesla and grants... this one mentions what Ford took.
So no Ford did not take the bail out but they did take a HUGE grant for electric tech research. I knew I read they took money somewhere... $6 BILLION.
Tesla, Ford, Nissan all receive electric car development loans from US government -- Engadget
It was a 'gov't backed' loan... basically meaning that they were loaned $500 something million bucks by a bank, and the gov't told the bank, don't worry, if Solyndra goes belly-up and defaults on it, taxpayers got your back! hahahah
what a joke. how would anyone have motivation to pay back if no repercussions. I'm willing to bet a paycheck that not only this year, but last year, the top executives, received HUGE bonuses... hahahahaha
goes to show what kind of business sense our gov't has. <endrant>
it's like the US giving ~$4billion in tax breaks to 'undocumented immigrants' and how ~70% of California inmates are 'undocumented immigrants' which taxpayers ARE taking care of... hahhahaha california will be tijuana in 20 years. mark my words now.
09-02-2011, 02:26 PM
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So, because someone can manufacture a product for cheeper, better and more effecient, they should have to pay MORE to bring that product here, meaning I have to pay more for it?
American "products" are a joke, I will back your Tariff idea as soon as all, and I mean ALL unions are broken up and banned/outlawed. You want the true death of american manufacturing, look to your so called "friendly" union rep. That right there is the guy stealing money from your pocket.
American "products" are a joke, I will back your Tariff idea as soon as all, and I mean ALL unions are broken up and banned/outlawed. You want the true death of american manufacturing, look to your so called "friendly" union rep. That right there is the guy stealing money from your pocket.
the sound you heard was jobs being sucked out of the U.S. but most are prolly too young to remember that...
also look at the bridge issue. We're supposedly going to save something like $30million just by buying steel from China, cause of all the union stuff. people fail to see the truth, and just ***** and moan about China.
09-02-2011, 02:29 PM
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Depends on what you know, if the guy at $5 a hour ends up getting hurt or ruining production because he doesnt know his *** from a hole in the ground, then the $30 is a better bargan for the company...and most companies know this.
Lowend: non union shop, non union workers, non union wages (on a magnatude higher than some of the union shops because our company doesnt have to pay for the union bull****)
**** unions, flat out, and **** anyone who thinks they are a good thing in the modern world. I will give you that yea, back in the 20s and 30s they were handy and had a place, that place is gone.
Lowend: non union shop, non union workers, non union wages (on a magnatude higher than some of the union shops because our company doesnt have to pay for the union bull****)
**** unions, flat out, and **** anyone who thinks they are a good thing in the modern world. I will give you that yea, back in the 20s and 30s they were handy and had a place, that place is gone.
09-02-2011, 02:33 PM
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you can also thank Clinton and NAFTA...
the sound you heard was jobs being sucked out of the U.S. but most are prolly too young to remember that...
also look at the bridge issue. We're supposedly going to save something like $30million just by buying steel from China, cause of all the union stuff. people fail to see the truth, and just ***** and moan about China.
the sound you heard was jobs being sucked out of the U.S. but most are prolly too young to remember that...
also look at the bridge issue. We're supposedly going to save something like $30million just by buying steel from China, cause of all the union stuff. people fail to see the truth, and just ***** and moan about China.
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09-02-2011, 02:35 PM
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09-02-2011, 02:37 PM
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My cousin sent me an article about some dude out in Alabama or some ****. Dude was like 24 years old. Had 9 kids. NINE kids. No job. Welfare check of $1500 a month for each kid. Plus all the other aid he could gather. Was bringing in $160,000 a year for free. And now that he died his kids will more than likely ALL get social security checks until they're 18 or someone else takes responsibility for them.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
It's why I see Escalades on 26 inch rims with $8000 stereo systems in them all over the place in Watsonville.
09-02-2011, 03:35 PM
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You see that it Watsonville huh? I live in watsonville dude and I take offense to that big time! Where is all this info coming from dude. Get your head out of your *** and think before you speak. That was a really ignorant comment man. Escalades with 8,000 dollar systems. Wait let me guess, they're probably all illegals too huh. You know all about east San jo too wrxbrah? You guys are off your rocker!
And how the **** can you be "offended" with what OMA said when your handle is JuanitoBurrito!?!
And yes, they probably were illegals!
