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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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i dont think he made that statement to imply that all non-Christians are liars. just how he believes he should live his life as a christian
I didnt intend to imply he implied that.



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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by matthepcat
Hey while there are so many experts on this thread....I have a question.

Is Mormonism the same as Christianity?
Christianity is the belief in Christ as the Son of God and the Savior of Mankind. So who ever believes in Christ as the Son of God is a Christian.

I know that Mormons also supplement reading the Holy Bible with the Book of Mormon.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
I didnt intend to imply he implied that.



That is awesome grammar.
^ lol i hear ya tho (<---great spelling here). glad we're on the same page.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
Come on... that's a messed up statement. Like posted before, it's wrong to think everyone believes the same thing. I'm sure all of any one doesn't believe everything the same.
http://www.exmormon.org/blacks1.htm
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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^ lol i hear ya tho (<---great spelling here). glad we're on the same page.
Cool, I just meant to say that a religious principle is not what guides many people not to lie, and that you shouldnt need a book to tell you lying is wrong.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
I dont think I have ever been included on a list like that before!
That's not true--I thanked you and someone else (forgot who) for participating in a respectful and rational discussion with me. I have forgotten what the topic was, though.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
It is, in the way along with Islam, Judaism, and Catholics are all part of the Judio-christian tree. Meaning they all have a root in the old bible and the general area in/around Egypt/Iran/Turkey, what they once called the "green triangle"
I don't know that I would with 100% confidence say that Mormonism is the same as Christianity... but I don't know that much about Mormonism. I know that they believe Joseph Smith wrote the BOM based on gold plates he allegedly discovered and destroyed. He claimed he transcribed ancient Native American languages and that Jesus came to America after the resurrection and before ascending back to Heaven.

I know a lot of Christian scholars do not believe that Mormonism is an Abrahamic religion.

I stick to my Holy Bible and a relationship with God through Christ.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Yin
jewpac you were borderline, just made the cut.

kyle, i got nothin... but after meeting you, i do enjoy your colorful posts.


Originally Posted by jewpac42
Thus he is not the Messiah, when the Messiah comes he brings peace on Earth. And yes, I am completely comfortable with what happens to me in that highly unlikely and probably fictional scenario.
Well now you're saying that you are comfortable only because it wont happen.

You cant tell me you wouldn't crap the **** out of your pants when you see the heavens open and you don't have the key to the stairway.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
That's not true--I thanked you and someone else (forgot who) for participating in a respectful and rational discussion with me. I have forgotten what the topic was, though.
It certainly wasn't prop 8.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
I don't know that I would with 100% confidence say that Mormonism is the same as Christianity... but I don't know that much about Mormonism. I know that they believe Joseph Smith wrote the BOM based on gold plates he allegedly discovered and destroyed. He claimed he transcribed ancient Native American languages and that Jesus came to America after the resurrection and before ascending back to Heaven.

I know a lot of Christian scholars do not believe that Mormonism is an Abrahamic religion.

I stick to my Holy Bible and a relationship with God through Christ.
Mormonism is a sect of Christianity, just like Baptist, Mothodist, Episcopalian, Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Calvinist, etc. etc.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
Well now you're saying that you are comfortable only because it wont happen.

You cant tell me you wouldn't crap the **** out of your pants when you see the heavens open and you don't have the key to the stairway.
I am completely 100% comfortable with what ever might happen in that scenario. And no, I wouldnt based on my upbringing as a Jew.
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Originally Posted by matthepcat
Thanx!

So their main difference is interpretation of the same basic text...and then the Mormons tossed in their own book to go along with it?
I don't think Mormons believe in the Trinity. The Trinity being God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus.

They believe in Jesus and that he is the Son of God, but not that he is God in the Flesh.

That's the difference that makes it not Christianity. Christians believe that Jesus is God in the Flesh, therefore a part of the Trinity.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
I don't think Mormons believe in the Trinity. The Trinity being God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus.

They believe in Jesus and that he is the Son of God, but not that he is God in the Flesh.
No I think that is jehovah's witnesses. There are some very interesting rules to the Mormon church though...reading through a few.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
You cant tell me you wouldn't crap the **** out of your pants when you see the heavens open and you don't have the key to the stairway.
if the key to heaven is a fat bleezy and if St. Peter looked anything like Tommy Chong, you know i'm in like Flint.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by irrational x
i understand but thats not the point. riddle me this: what merciful god would allow this to happen to one of his children?
still waiting.



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