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First, this is an awesome thread!!! Second, it would be so much easier for everyone to just accept that different people are going to believe different things. I am a Christian, but at the same time, I'm not going to sit here and demean and degrade someone else just because they don't believe what I believe.
ANYWAYS, for all those that say there is no proof or evidence of God.. I totally agree! but that's what Christianity and my "BELIEFS" are all about.. its about having FAITH in a being that nobody really knows exist.. It's so unfortunate that organized religion causes such a divide among people, but I once heard....(lol. dont quote me exactly.) "God created truth..the devil created organized religion"..
Have your own beliefs and be grounded in them..but there's no need to lash out and bash others...
ANYWAYS, for all those that say there is no proof or evidence of God.. I totally agree! but that's what Christianity and my "BELIEFS" are all about.. its about having FAITH in a being that nobody really knows exist.. It's so unfortunate that organized religion causes such a divide among people, but I once heard....(lol. dont quote me exactly.) "God created truth..the devil created organized religion"..
Have your own beliefs and be grounded in them..but there's no need to lash out and bash others...
So you said your beliefs are all about believing in something with no evidence... might want to reword that...
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No, it wa the "fault" of the bible, its words, its message, and the people who spread said message (in that order) that caused me to "loose my faith". I found so many lies, so much hate in the words of that book. There is IMHO more hate in the bible, than in mine kamf.
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I took this from Believe.Org to sum it up:
One Mind Behind The Bible
Our Bible is composed of 66 books, by about 40 different writers of various backgrounds, living during a period of about 1,600 years -- yet they present one message. Such a miracle can only be explained by there being one divine Author, who was in control of all these human writers.
The Bible writers came from many walks of life, including kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, herdsmen, poets, statesmen, scholars, soldiers, priests, prophets, a tax collector, a tentmaking rabbi, and a Gentile doctor.
The Bible was written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The writings contained in the Bible belong to a great variety of literary types including history, law, poetry, educational discourses, parables, biography, personal correspondence, and prophecy.
Books written by men have no unity of thought on even one subject. Some of them invariably disagree with others. But there is perfect unity between the books of the Bible -- which speak of hundreds of subjects in many fields. There is no contradiction among them.
Who but God could produce such a book?
Our Bible is composed of 66 books, by about 40 different writers of various backgrounds, living during a period of about 1,600 years -- yet they present one message. Such a miracle can only be explained by there being one divine Author, who was in control of all these human writers.
The Bible writers came from many walks of life, including kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, herdsmen, poets, statesmen, scholars, soldiers, priests, prophets, a tax collector, a tentmaking rabbi, and a Gentile doctor.
The Bible was written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The writings contained in the Bible belong to a great variety of literary types including history, law, poetry, educational discourses, parables, biography, personal correspondence, and prophecy.
Books written by men have no unity of thought on even one subject. Some of them invariably disagree with others. But there is perfect unity between the books of the Bible -- which speak of hundreds of subjects in many fields. There is no contradiction among them.
Who but God could produce such a book?
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The point of an argument is not usually to change your opponents mind, but to educate them on your point of view.
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can i add this to all the "getting into heaven" thing.
i consider myself to be a good person, i know whats right and wrong, etc etc.
so later when i die without beliving in god, i goto hell?
if god wishes to send me to hell for not beliving in him, yet i live a good life helping others and doing things that are right, then that's a god that doesnt deserve my attention. this is one insurance i have on why i'm an athiest. i believe what i want because its what makes more sense to me and if god wants to punish me for doing what i believe, so be it.
so if he does send all athiests to hell no matter how they lived, that just says "believe in god or you will be damned to hell". obey the higher being, follow his rules, etc...doesnt this sound more like monarchy? as in a way to govern a society?
i'm only talking about one perspective of religion, i'm not basing all religion on this.
i consider myself to be a good person, i know whats right and wrong, etc etc.
so later when i die without beliving in god, i goto hell?
if god wishes to send me to hell for not beliving in him, yet i live a good life helping others and doing things that are right, then that's a god that doesnt deserve my attention. this is one insurance i have on why i'm an athiest. i believe what i want because its what makes more sense to me and if god wants to punish me for doing what i believe, so be it.
so if he does send all athiests to hell no matter how they lived, that just says "believe in god or you will be damned to hell". obey the higher being, follow his rules, etc...doesnt this sound more like monarchy? as in a way to govern a society?
i'm only talking about one perspective of religion, i'm not basing all religion on this.
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It was this thread.