View Poll Results: prop 8
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Nice job, picking out one thing and twisting my words. Marriage in my mind is a religious thing, but under the law I think a civil union is more appropriate for anyone. If someone wants to be married by their church that should be a separate issue and a civil union is how it should be recognized under law for anyone, gay, or straight. So, in conclusion, no I DID not say you shouldn't be allowed to marry so stfu and stop being an ***.
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So its OK for me to be married by a judge becuase I am straight and not religious, but if I were gay and religious it would not be OK? You said marriage should be a religious thing, that was your argument, right? So how did I pick apart one thing you said? I made an intelligent argument to counter your argument then you come out calling me an *** becuase my argument is coherent?
This is ridiculous. We are voting to TAKE RIGHTS AWAY. Is that what America is, now?
Marriage is not a word or a right that only belongs to people of certain religions. It is something that everyone should have the right to... religious views aside.
I just don't see how this harms anyone. I think people should be allowed to do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn't harm other people.
It just drives me crazy when people say that it erodes "traditional" marriage. HOW? Is your faith and your marriage so weak that people living contrary to your opinion ERODES your marriage... dilutes or makes your marriage less strong or meaningful.
Ridiculous.
Marriage is not a word or a right that only belongs to people of certain religions. It is something that everyone should have the right to... religious views aside.
I just don't see how this harms anyone. I think people should be allowed to do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn't harm other people.
It just drives me crazy when people say that it erodes "traditional" marriage. HOW? Is your faith and your marriage so weak that people living contrary to your opinion ERODES your marriage... dilutes or makes your marriage less strong or meaningful.
Ridiculous.
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Yes on Prop 8. Personally, I agree with the person on the first page who said it should be a civil union and have people get married from their church. That way religious people can be married if they chose to do so and gays can chose to do so as a civil union. The whole system needs to be fixed in my opinion. Personally, I don't have a problem with gays or anyone, what someone does in their bedroom is their own business. However, I do have a problem with someone shoving their beliefs down my throat, which is what happens on both sides of this proposition. What should happen is civil unions need to have the same benefits as marriage that way gay, straight, whatever can be together in a committed relationship and those who want to be married can do so through a church. But let the people speak, I don't think it was right how four people decided to change a law that should have been voted on in the first place. So at least now, majority can decide what California wants, which is the point of democracy.
Cause the issue is this:
marriage is a legal deal. IRS, marriage certificates... this dictates certain rights and taxes and other things.
Prop 8 is about religious folks wanting the government to do something about gay marriage
, NOT the other way around. There is nothing that says that a church can't refuse to marry a gay couple, cause they can, i mean, the gov can't tell you what to believe in. Churches are private non-profits, they don't have to marry gay people.But the state should allow the marriage of gay people, because it's it's a legal thing, and must do so for the sake of equality.
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Its about equality for homosexuals. They have every god given right I do with the exception of marraige. So in reality that word "marraige" is what this is all about. I keep having a mental flash of Gavin Newsome saying "Its here weather you like it or not." Well I dont. I do not like having Homosexuality shoved down my throat every 5 minutes. I dont agree with it. I do not feel it is morally correct. I am not going to judge homosexuals everyone lives by a different moral code. However Family through marraige needs to be protected. It has far reaching concequences to include the possibility with all the stresses of puberty now having to choose your sexual affiliation. NOTE TO READERS I am again just bringing up possibilitys and throwing out what little my feeble ignorant mind can muster.
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religion has NOTHING to do with marriage. Neither my wife nor I am religious. That doesn't mean we diddnt have the right to be married.
I don't know why the religious groups are so insecure with homosexuality. There's nothing to be scared of.
NO on 8
I don't know why the religious groups are so insecure with homosexuality. There's nothing to be scared of.
NO on 8
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Nice job, picking out one thing and twisting my words. Marriage in my mind is a religious thing, but under the law I think a civil union is more appropriate for anyone. If someone wants to be married by their church that should be a separate issue and a civil union is how it should be recognized under law for anyone, gay, or straight. So, in conclusion, no I DID not say you shouldn't be allowed to marry so stfu and stop being an ***.
I hope you will ask your local representative to create a bill to change the marriage to civic union then.
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No I was awake in that part did you not catch earlier where I refered to darwin and the fact that if homosexuality was anitomically and biologically correct and ok we will all become hermaphrodites
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Your still missing my point completely, learn to READ. I think their should be civil unions for all, gay, straight, religious, non-religious, just that is how it should be looked at under the law. So there is no discrimination based on anything. Marriage I do not think needs to be recognized under law and can be recognized by your church. Civil unions as they stand right now are a joke and the whole civil union thing would need to be fixed to provide the same benefits as marriage, but just call it that instead. If your not religious, then why would you care if it was called a marriage or civil union? Call it a civil union and keep everyone happy. But again, this is my opinion, you don't have to agree, but don't try and twist my words.
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That is probably the most ignorant thing I have read today, and that says a lot.
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Did you read Origin or Species? I have, and you are completely incorrect.
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Its about equality for homosexuals. They have every god given right I do with the exception of marraige. So in reality that word "marraige" is what this is all about. I keep having a mental flash of Gavin Newsome saying "Its here weather you like it or not." Well I dont. I do not like having Homosexuality shoved down my throat every 5 minutes. I dont agree with it. I do not feel it is morally correct. I am not going to judge homosexuals everyone lives by a different moral code. However Family through marraige needs to be protected. It has far reaching concequences to include the possibility with all the stresses of puberty now having to choose your sexual affiliation. NOTE TO READERS I am again just bringing up possibilitys and throwing out what little my feeble ignorant mind can muster.
What does attraction have anything to do with whether what gender we are (or both in the case of hermaphrodites).
I'm sorry, but you are not that bright dude. gender is selected at conception, it has nothing to do with hetero or homosexuality.
You get abnormalities due to extra or missing chromosomes.