I'm pretty sure different front bushings and caster.

 

I'm still unsure about whether or not the bushings are different. I highly doubt caster is different.

 

I haven't heard anything about bushings being different, or caster. Just spring rates and dampening.

 

My point was improving the stock tune and exhaust nets power but due to the incredibly increased response is easier to drive fast. It's not just about power but power delivery. I feel anyone who chooses to remain on stock tune isn't very credible person as they are newbin it hard. The stock tunes are horrendous are often less safe than a custom Tune running more boost
.

 

You can still drive really fast with a stock tune. It's called having driving skills. You're forgetting you need suspension to put that power down and keep the tires on the ground, too. How is a person who stays with on a stock tune not credible about being able to drive fast?

 

Let me get this straight...Stock tune is MORE dangerous? And it is SAFER to crank up the boost? IMHO

I have a '98 Legacy Outback that has **** for power and performance potential compared to pretty much everything (and I won't claim to be the greatest driver either)...yet I don't know how many times I walked away from Corvettes, M3s, 911s, etc on curvy roads because those drivers were clueless as what to do with those vehicles (bigger wallet does not equal bigger driving skill).

 

Well, for some cars yes. 08+ STi's for example. The stock maps are crap.

 

I will conceed I haven't cared for the new models, so I don't follow their issues. But define "crap"? Do the engines constantly blow up under normal circumstances or just concervatively tunes because Subaru is trying to appeal to a wider audience?

 

I'll be pretty blunt honest here.

I have a tendency to drive faster in the Prius V than any other car I've been in...............

What's not safe? The driver or the engine.......
Engine doesn't count one bit.

No..... 2007 Maps were horrible 08+ just have ****ty piston rings and pistons and a semi lean tune without performance.

But then again.... The legacy's went in for a remap by recall also, they had no ringland failures like the GR/GH chassis does.

But wait. This is completely irrelevant to the topic still.

 

If the Prius fast?
No

Does the Prius handle?
No

Does the Prius have a stock ****ty tune?
ERMAHGERD

Point in the making here.

 

I think the tuning on the later models got worse to meet emissions and made less power. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Looks like the BRZ is almost as fast as the Civic Si.

 

Civics aren't slow when done right either......

Just that most of them are rice doesn't mean it's a bad platform.

 

That's a great review - thank you for sharing! Curious though, it seems by the image you posted that you completely missed the point of it.

I especially liked the parts where the driver says he expected the BRZ to feel underpowered, but was surprised by the engine and furthermore that it is the most balanced sports car you can get for that price point. It's only "interesting" to note that the Civic had higher performance tires on it, and speaks well that the driver of the BRZ was able to keep up with such a dis-advantage. Many people have already talked about the lack of grip of the OEM tires fit to the BRZ.

Civics are awesome track cars by the way. Take a look at NASA's calendar and go spectate at some track days. It's really fun, and you can often get ride alongs with various different drivers to get a feel for how different cars can be versus what you had expected based on reading some specs about the car.

 

The BRZ's stock tires are touring summers. Anything classified a touring tire is going to focus purely on ride quality and noise. Grip is last thing you'll get out of a set of them.