Bay Area - NorCal GC Swap Thread
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Okay.. I am all wrapped up here. I actually had a chance to work on this today and I just... Don't wanna.
Probably going to start the "garage sale" soon but it would be so awesome if someone was interested in grabbing the whole lot. This would require a full size truck and a trailer. Though the car is complete enough to tow if necessary. If interested, drop me a line soon. Motor plus the tranny plus a few other things was around $5k and there is a bunch of extra stuff. If I could get ~$6500 for everything (and I mean everything) that would totally make it worth my while to just let it all go. This includes an AP V2 set up for this motor w/ the STi pinks, VF39, and STi TMIC. Have 2x STi TMIC cores but need a Y-pipe setup. Currently STi up pipe on the car and pinks are installed, 17x8.5 SSR GT2's, V5 STi suspension, etc etc etc.
Probably going to start the "garage sale" soon but it would be so awesome if someone was interested in grabbing the whole lot. This would require a full size truck and a trailer. Though the car is complete enough to tow if necessary. If interested, drop me a line soon. Motor plus the tranny plus a few other things was around $5k and there is a bunch of extra stuff. If I could get ~$6500 for everything (and I mean everything) that would totally make it worth my while to just let it all go. This includes an AP V2 set up for this motor w/ the STi pinks, VF39, and STi TMIC. Have 2x STi TMIC cores but need a Y-pipe setup. Currently STi up pipe on the car and pinks are installed, 17x8.5 SSR GT2's, V5 STi suspension, etc etc etc.
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No - I will not be parting out things that are needed for the car at this time. If no one is interested in the project as a whole (sadly the most likely scenario) then I will start the process of making a list of items for sale down the road. I really hope someone just wants the whole pile.
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I messed with the car a bit today. I wanted to tackle something I thought I could get through, to make me feel a little better about the whole thing, and as if I could actually complete it some day. I grabbed my spare doors and was going to replace my wind-up window door hardware with the power window hardware from the newer doors. After looking around for a while, the parts look similar - the physical part might just work. BUT, there is no plug in my car or on the harness that matches the plug coming out of the new door. So that means that I will have to either re-wire the harness in my car, or find a body-side plug that matches the door and rewire that into my harness.
It's this kind of crap that is killing it for me. I don't have wiring diagrams and I have no idea where I might find the body-side plug for it. Anything I do myself will look half-assed and janky, so I want to use the Subaru pieces, but I don't have any idea how to obtain that stuff. Also, every time I call the dealer for parts now - I have to provide a VIN which makes it tricky. I have VINs for '95, '98, '02, and '04 that I have been using but I am tired of this crap.
My wife asked if I could tear it all down again and sell the parts separately. That is a very practical, sensible idea. I paid $1,500 for the transmission and $2,500 for the engine. But, I don't know anything about the engine other than it supposedly has 14k miles on it, and it was built by a shop, who doesn't seem to remember the engine or what's inside. So, no - not really. I don't want to deal with those conversations, nor do I want to hear about it if someone buys the motor and it's dead for some reason. Even moreso, I don't want to get all done and hear that I need to rebuild the motor. I would like that scenario even less than the one I have now. I have no reason to believe the engine is not in perfect shape, but it's sensible to consider other scenarios.
Hopefully anyone planning to do something like this will think long and hard before taking the steps, and do more research than I did. I really don't know what I have done wrong here though. Seems like the wiring issues combined with not having a remote clue how this car goes together is what is doing it.
Taking it to a shop to have it finished is really not an option at this point. I have spent something like $8k so far to achieve this worthlessness. If I took it to any shop they could tell me it needed X amount of stuff it doesn't need and I would have no idea. If I ended up spending $10k on this car and it still wasn't running/driving, I would want to kill myself.
Anyway, I am not sure what's going to happen with this, but if I have a chance to get rid of it - and - all of it goes at once, I will take that chance. I would totally trade all of this for something like a fairly worn out bugeye.
It's this kind of crap that is killing it for me. I don't have wiring diagrams and I have no idea where I might find the body-side plug for it. Anything I do myself will look half-assed and janky, so I want to use the Subaru pieces, but I don't have any idea how to obtain that stuff. Also, every time I call the dealer for parts now - I have to provide a VIN which makes it tricky. I have VINs for '95, '98, '02, and '04 that I have been using but I am tired of this crap.
My wife asked if I could tear it all down again and sell the parts separately. That is a very practical, sensible idea. I paid $1,500 for the transmission and $2,500 for the engine. But, I don't know anything about the engine other than it supposedly has 14k miles on it, and it was built by a shop, who doesn't seem to remember the engine or what's inside. So, no - not really. I don't want to deal with those conversations, nor do I want to hear about it if someone buys the motor and it's dead for some reason. Even moreso, I don't want to get all done and hear that I need to rebuild the motor. I would like that scenario even less than the one I have now. I have no reason to believe the engine is not in perfect shape, but it's sensible to consider other scenarios.
Hopefully anyone planning to do something like this will think long and hard before taking the steps, and do more research than I did. I really don't know what I have done wrong here though. Seems like the wiring issues combined with not having a remote clue how this car goes together is what is doing it.
Taking it to a shop to have it finished is really not an option at this point. I have spent something like $8k so far to achieve this worthlessness. If I took it to any shop they could tell me it needed X amount of stuff it doesn't need and I would have no idea. If I ended up spending $10k on this car and it still wasn't running/driving, I would want to kill myself.
Anyway, I am not sure what's going to happen with this, but if I have a chance to get rid of it - and - all of it goes at once, I will take that chance. I would totally trade all of this for something like a fairly worn out bugeye.
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My suggestion would be to forget the windows, etc and get it running. That will answer the engine question. Don't sweat the small ****!! Once you get it to where you can drive it you then go back and tackle the little things.
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Hey! Dont give it up, im sure everyone who has done a swap has gone through something, i have some wiring diagrams and a lot of plugs and pigtails maybe we can figure something out to help you on your way, i havent put my interior together but ive been driving around you are welcome to come by take a look take pics, pm me for my contact info!
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Either way I think the window/harness/plug thing just reminded me of all the other things where the plugs are totally different - such as, the transmission. I also do not know if the fuel lines are in okay shape. It would suck to have to drop the tank again. Anyway, we'll see what the next week brings. I have no problem physically swapping an engine - shoot we did my buddy's '99 OBS clutch/timing belt/water pump/etc a bit ago with my tools and the cherry picker I was borrowing. Just a little intimidated by the thought of poring over wiring diagrams and testing crap.
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yeah wiring is a bit overwhelming, you should really contact brian keener(responsible for IWIRE services) if you have any doubts, totally awesome guy and a subaru wiring genius!
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Ya IWIRE rocks. I will be sending everything to him when I finally get around to a swap.
I am somewhat sure that the window wiring is separate from the main wiring harness... and I base that on nothing but knowledge of how a GD is wired
BTW shoot me your e-mail. I have a disk that I scored off of Ebay that has wiring diagrams from 93+ Imprezas. They are not complete, but it may have what you need.
I am somewhat sure that the window wiring is separate from the main wiring harness... and I base that on nothing but knowledge of how a GD is wired
BTW shoot me your e-mail. I have a disk that I scored off of Ebay that has wiring diagrams from 93+ Imprezas. They are not complete, but it may have what you need.
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I think if you have the time and funds to finish this project then go for it. I have my fair share of swaps, wire merging, but it's a trial error kinda of deal and it's easier said than done. You have to learn somewhere and this is one way of doing it. You can read all the books in the world but it can't beat hands on experience. I say if it's taking too much time off your hands and it's keeping you away from what's real important in life, scrap the project. There will always be a next time so don't let it get to you.
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Hey! Dont give it up, im sure everyone who has done a swap has gone through something, i have some wiring diagrams and a lot of plugs and pigtails maybe we can figure something out to help you on your way, i havent put my interior together but ive been driving around you are welcome to come by take a look take pics, pm me for my contact info!
Ya IWIRE rocks. I will be sending everything to him when I finally get around to a swap.
I am somewhat sure that the window wiring is separate from the main wiring harness... and I base that on nothing but knowledge of how a GD is wired
BTW shoot me your e-mail. I have a disk that I scored off of Ebay that has wiring diagrams from 93+ Imprezas. They are not complete, but it may have what you need.
I am somewhat sure that the window wiring is separate from the main wiring harness... and I base that on nothing but knowledge of how a GD is wired
BTW shoot me your e-mail. I have a disk that I scored off of Ebay that has wiring diagrams from 93+ Imprezas. They are not complete, but it may have what you need.
I think if you have the time and funds to finish this project then go for it. I have my fair share of swaps, wire merging, but it's a trial error kinda of deal and it's easier said than done. You have to learn somewhere and this is one way of doing it. You can read all the books in the world but it can't beat hands on experience. I say if it's taking too much time off your hands and it's keeping you away from what's real important in life, scrap the project. There will always be a next time so don't let it get to you.
Regards,
Ron
Regards,
Ron
We came up with an idea though.. Like I mentioned in my last post, I am going to do everything I can complete and then make a list of what (I believe) needs to be done, and see if I can find someone else to finish it. I feel my money will be better spent paying someone who can do this "RIGHT" since I cannot dedicate enough time to it right now. Also, this will get the car out of the garage so I can clean the garage and then use it for my new car. When I get the Impreza back, I should be able to park it outside. Win-Win-Win!!!
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Picked up my header today, I gotta say it looks damn nice. The guys at Accessories Plus really came through.
Plan to install it on Friday or over the weekend.
BTW some wiring for my radiator harness will be ~1.5'' from where the header is. I think I can relocate it a lil further away, just wondering if this coating will hold in enough heat so stuff around it won't melt.
Here is oem compared to the uncoated Borla...
And now with the new coating...
Plan to install it on Friday or over the weekend.
BTW some wiring for my radiator harness will be ~1.5'' from where the header is. I think I can relocate it a lil further away, just wondering if this coating will hold in enough heat so stuff around it won't melt.
Here is oem compared to the uncoated Borla...
And now with the new coating...
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That looks nice, but I don't think it's going to do too much for heat. I had Sanderson do my header and downpipe on my last Celica since I did not have time to send it to Swain, and while it looked really nice, it was nearly as hot as my bare header was. A Swain coated header on the other hand, you can brush across it right after shutting the car down and not get burned. You can also run your wires through some Thermo Sleeve (or whatever that is called - have to find the package again) to protect them. It's like the stuff that comes stock on the turbo's coolant and oil lines from the engine.
I just got a used Gruppe-SEX header that's sort of rusty but should not be a problem for them - only thing is, they have the union in the middle so I am not sure how they will handle handle that.
Got some progress yesterday - pretty stoked. Have to check the list but got the up-pipe gasket in, put the belts on, installed the starter, and some other things. Installed the turbo about 5 times. I think another 3 more times should do it. That oil drain pipe is a PITA!!!
I just got a used Gruppe-SEX header that's sort of rusty but should not be a problem for them - only thing is, they have the union in the middle so I am not sure how they will handle handle that.
Got some progress yesterday - pretty stoked. Have to check the list but got the up-pipe gasket in, put the belts on, installed the starter, and some other things. Installed the turbo about 5 times. I think another 3 more times should do it. That oil drain pipe is a PITA!!!
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Even my Swaitech coated Perrin header has managed to melt my fan shroud...which is why my headers are wrapped now as well.
Wrap anything near your header that you do not want to melt.
Wrap anything near your header that you do not want to melt.