Over on nasioc a couple shops have already put on turbo kits, one making 400+ on e85 but think he broke a gear.

 

There's E85 maps out there that claim 30hp gains. Cosworth has a nicely built up Brz. I was thinking a supercharger but I would want to change internals so I wouldn't have to worry about longevity issues.. Though I'm to the point where I'm over the car and I want to finally build a bugeye the way I've always wanted to..

 

If you haven't already, get a catless uppipe (id recommend an sti or 0607 wrx uppipe because it looks like a factory unit

I've got an sti uppipe and when I put the cobb ap stg1 on it, it made a world of difference...no more boost hiccups and smoother power...

Then I got a custom protune stg1 that turned up the boost and it feels close (but not the same) as a few stg2 wrx's I've driven

 

I don't necessarily think a turbo is even needed. Just a higher state of tune.
Subaru has always been lacking on their NA motors and I'm not sure why.
If Honda could pull 240HP out of their 2.0 liter F20C 10 years ago, Subaru should be able to do it today

 

Besides adding power, there's always weight reduction.

 

LOLOLOLOLOL seriously go play with yourself. You are putting the car in a different zone. Don't even talk here if you wanna say this is slower than a vette. Not the same game. It's like Michael Jordan playing golf and baseball.

Once again LOLOLOLOLOL really? C63? You make me sick. Why the hell are you comparing your wrx to an amg? That's like me saying yo dude.... I'm gonna go smoke Usian Bolt AND Michael Phelps in the same day.

 

Totally - cars are not slow or fast. When I hear someone say a car is slow, it just makes me think they are not into driving, but like to talk about it after reading automobile magazines.

Yes, exactly.

WTF.. What does a used Corvette have to do with a BRZ? I mean, you could also buy a lot of Silly Putty for $25k.

Oh my. This sounds like what happens when a friend tells me that someone else is into cars and we should talk. JUST STOP IT!

There are other cars on the market that may potentially better fit your needs. This is a sports car.

Whaaaaa estimating what a car might do if you drastically altered it into stuff that doesn't exist ahhhhhh my head! What is the point of a conversation like this or even these words? Are you talking about a video game here?

Wow people.

Note: I will concede that cars with less power feel less powerful.

~le sigh~

I remember when this sort of crap happened when the Toyota MR-S came out. People were saying that it needed more power, and at least it should have the Celica's 2ZZ powerplant or better yet a turbo. These are people that all do not and did not understand the point of a mid-engined, 2100lb car just like a lot of people today do not have any idea what a BRZ would be used for.

The thing is, this killed the MR-S. It was an amazing car. I had one at the first EQ tuning track day on street tires and 87 octane and was constantly held up by people driving much more powerful and capable (faster if you must) cars, and I am not an aggressive or highly skilled driver.

So, in order to combat this, Subaru should release a LS1 powered BRZ for the people who say things like "drag racing" and insist that a car needs a certain number of horsepower in order to be fun. That way, everyone could have fun and the car would not die off due to lack of understanding of the purpose of the platform. I mean, sure - there would be a lot of BRZ's shoved into hedges, but that's the way it goes!

It would be ultra-awesome when people realize that things like skill, grip, balance, and weight have a LOT more to do with "going fast" and having fun than just power.

But this is such an old and annoying topic... There is nothing I can do with words to change someone's mind about this, and vice versa. The only real way to make the point is a track day!!!!

Speaking of that, Daniel - did you ever have that on-track race with the fellow with the G37? I remember an argument similar to this years ago, and it was going to culminate in the two of you meeting at a track and comparing track times or something equally sensible. Would be cool to hear what happened.

 

If anyone here bought a Subaru because its a fast car, you're an idiot. I'm pretty sure most people bought them because they like the car and they're sporty. Handling and whatever else.

Why are you comparing to a budget fun sporty car to a complete muscle car?

 

Okay a low comment here. I play forza and I like to do weight reduction and other upgrades before power, yet my friend likes to do power upgrades and nothing else. Guess who's faster around the track? Dead even on tracks with okay straights, I;m ahead on tight tracks.

 

+1.

 

Not the same game? Lets see here: RWD, check. Sexy, impractical 2 door styling, check. Both around $30k, check. If this were 1999, I'd agree with you but C5 corvettes can be had for the same price nowadays.

 

dafuq? If this were 1999? Why don't you go buy yourself a Delorean?

 

Wombatsauce said it perfectly. Light cars that handle well are loads of fun and fast around a track. I think my friends miata is way more fun to drive than my wrx even though my car has a lot more power

 

I was merely suggesting that for the same price you could get a LOT more car for the same price. Pretty simple concept.

Haha, I was talking power output from the motor and my comparison was pretty dead on. The NA BRZ motor makes just about the same power as a 2.0 turbo WRX motor (They BOTH do about 150-160whp on low reading mustang dynos). In a drag race the WRX will probably edge it out because of the AWD launch but they are real close.

And yes I did speculate in fantasy land that if the wrx had no AWD, the BRZ would probably edge it out because its lighter. Make sense?

 

So since all of us here are clearly drag racers.. I could pay $3,500 for a old V8 camaro vs a brand new wrx and beat it. That's better right?

It's all your opinion on why you'd buy the corvette over a BRZ. If someone wanted a fast car they would've bought one.