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GR's suffer from understeer just like GD's. Suspension setup is based on preference, but to be more balanced the rule of thumb is bigger rear sway bar, the easiesr it is to break traction on the rear which means less oversteer............. a bigger front bar than rear bar would cause more understeer
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GR's suffer from understeer just like GD's. Suspension setup is based on preference, but to be more balanced the rule of thumb is bigger rear sway bar, the easiesr it is to break traction on the rear which means less oversteer............. a bigger front bar than rear bar would cause more understeer
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24mm front / 22mm rear 08+ or 27mm front / 24mm rear 02-07 This is another popular combination... Probably just as popular as combination #4. The stiffer front bar will give the car an improved turn in feel over combination #4. I find that this combination doesn't feel as neutral on street tires as combination #4. To me it feels like it gives you a flatter, better turn in feel at the expense of over all grip. If you are on a smooth track with grippy tires this is a different story. This combo is perfect for someone who does track days or time attacks. It is also the preference of many for daily driving. It does give more noticeably better handling than combo #4 for daily driving. It just doesn't suite my personal driving style as well as #4 does. National autocross champions have also confirmed that a bar this large in street tire autocross tends to make the car understeer. The fastest street tire autocross STis in the country for the past few years have used very soft front bars in combination with very stiff coilovers.
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"The fastest street tire autocross STis in the country for the past few years have used very soft front bars in combination with very stiff coilovers." that means softer in the front lol.
I'd recommend you visit an autocross and ask the guys actually driving the **** out of their cars, I'm sure they'll tell you bigger bar in the rear. Plus they're usually pretty nice and will give you a ride to feel their setup.
I'd recommend you visit an autocross and ask the guys actually driving the **** out of their cars, I'm sure they'll tell you bigger bar in the rear. Plus they're usually pretty nice and will give you a ride to feel their setup.
Lots of people also like to dual 25mm RCE swaybars, just to make it even more confusing... And those are hollow instead of solid so they're more like 22s.
Tire pressure tuning will do a lot of over/under steer as well.
Just stick with what you bought and go do an autocross sometime.
Tire pressure tuning will do a lot of over/under steer as well.
Just stick with what you bought and go do an autocross sometime.
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Lots of people also like to dual 25mm RCE swaybars, just to make it even more confusing... And those are hollow instead of solid so they're more like 22s.
Tire pressure tuning will do a lot of over/under steer as well.
Just stick with what you bought and go do an autocross sometime.
Tire pressure tuning will do a lot of over/under steer as well.
Just stick with what you bought and go do an autocross sometime.
For autocross is a roll cage required? And to be fair for my setup.. I am not going to be using this for auto cross a lot at all and I dont really care if I win or not, its just fun for me
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Edit: OKAY apparently there are no spacers for my year haha.. Am I SOL?
''Well worth the extra money since the stock end links are garbage. Make sure you install these with a loaded suspension and that your geometry is as vertical as possible to avoid install issues. IF YOU ARE USING WHITELINE SWAYS BUY THE SPACERS. At the time of this writing rallysport doesnt list it with the other endlink components as they are labeled for 2002-2007. go here Kartboy Whiteline Front Swaybar Spacers Subaru WRX / STI 2002-2007 at RallySportDirect.com'
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FWIW... I'm currently running my stock 19mm bar in the front and a Whiteline 22mm bar in the rear. I also have the rear whiteline braces and whiteline endlinks. To me, the handling characteristics are pretty neutral. I can get good rotation when I want it or it can understeer. Depends on my inputs.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
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Alright, Ill go ahead and purchase those.. I figured that the staff member should have let me know that they do not come with the kit. I wish they gave me some sort of tracking number :-/
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FWIW... I'm currently running my stock 19mm bar in the front and a Whiteline 22mm bar in the rear. I also have the rear whiteline braces and whiteline endlinks. To me, the handling characteristics are pretty neutral. I can get good rotation when I want it or it can understeer. Depends on my inputs.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
Definitely see that it works I figured that I would just get both sway bars because I didnt want to do things in parts after doing some more research this weekend.
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FWIW... I'm currently running my stock 19mm bar in the front and a Whiteline 22mm bar in the rear. I also have the rear whiteline braces and whiteline endlinks. To me, the handling characteristics are pretty neutral. I can get good rotation when I want it or it can understeer. Depends on my inputs.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
Looking here, that rear bar is doing some work. The rear tire is almost off the ground. That corner isn't drooping down, it's moving with the other side which is almost completely compressed.
There's an advantage in doing it in parts. It would show you how each change is affecting the dynamics of the car and what you should do next.
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No roll cage required. Just a DOT/Snell approved helmet. If you don't have one you can rent one for the day.
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Yes. We talked about this...
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