Anyone Out There Play With Toluene?

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by WRXXX
I'm new to adding Toluene, could someone create a chart with how much percentages of each product and also the final octane rating? IE. If I add XX% of Toluent to XX% of 91 octane gas I NEED to add XX amount of ATF and I get X amount of 9_ octane. The same for other gas octanes and other percentages of added Toluene. What are safe levels to mix at? It would make everything so much easier to people that don't deal with mixing fuels everyday. Sorry about all the XXXXXX's
Assume that you have a total 15 gallons:

If you have 3 gal of 114 toulene and 12 gal of 91 you'd do it like this:

((3/15)*114) + ((12/15)*91) = 95.6 octane
% of 114 + % of 91 = total octane

Make sense? You can do it too

more generally:

V = size of gas tank (volume)
N = Octane of booster
M = Octane of gasoline
a = gallons of booster
b = gallons of gasoline

((a/V)*N)+((b/V)*M) = mixed octane

Note: For all of you math whizzes out there, the added parens are for clarity.

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Wait, are you saying that you added enough toluene to your gas to bump up 91 octane to 92.4 octane.....

and you could tell a big difference from 1.4 octane points?
Something like that.

I mostly used toluene to give me a buffer between detonating and not. I needed this buffer since I was doing all of my tuning up to a point with my UTEC. Then I went to EcuTek and never really thought about using toluene because it was tuned properly by Bill. But I no longer roll out in a WRX and I run stock boost in my current car so I have no need for toluene at this point.

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Wait guys...

if MPJ can get it for $2/gallon, they should totally stockpile it, cause at that price we might as well fill up the maximum amount of it everytime we need gas, cause it's cheaper than gas!
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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i have bought 5gal cans of xylene from sherwin williams with a pullout spout. Its been sometime through. I got tired of this real fast.

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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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yeah, the problem with this stuff is its carcinogenic and dangerous to your health and well yea, to me, its better just to have a well tuned 91 map. i used to blend 91/100 for 94. in hindsight, it wasn't worth the trouble let alone the money.

once the stuff's burnt the stuff doesn't do anything for ya except cause health issues later on and thin your wallet as quickly as it thins paint... :X

whatever floats your respective boats, just a perspective.
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Yeah, I did this a couple of times... 91+ a couple of gallons of 100 octane was better. Seemed a LOT smoother and pulled better. I don't care anymore. I look for the cheapest 91 I can find that isn't water or sand and go with that. I am running out of money...
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