I don't think a 13 year old can take care of a child without the support of her family, friends, and possibly the government. However, I think that a majority of California teens would have support of 1 of the those 3 in which case they would be able to.

Now, answer my questions.

 

But there shouldn't be ANY reason for a teen to get pregnant this day and age! So much free contraception at schools, it's everywhere and they give it to your for FREE!

No reason... Kids can **** all the want, but imho, they're STUPID if they get pregnant, no reason to. They do cause they're stupid, and i want them to be responsible for their actions.

just how I feel about it

 

Right... because people who don't pray can't raise children? Stick to the issue instead of comments like this that are a joke please.

Your lack of understanding my thinking is skewed, so please ask instead of assuming so we can get things straight

 

Shouldn't have ****ed Johnny football hero.


With powers comes responsibility. Too many kids are not responsible.

 

Prop 4 gives them a choice of telling when I believe there should be no choice on the matter. They're still children. When they take financial responsibility of themselves, then they can make life altering decisions alone.

 

Gagan i usually TOTALLY agree with you... i honestly have the upmost respect for the way you think and your logic... (not to mention a bad **** gc)... but i just dont get your thinking on this one.
Ok i understand your upset that they screwed up and got pregnant, i get that, but punish them (Mostly the girl) for the rest of their lives !? Lets face it... the chances of going to college when your underage with a kid DROP IMMENSLY (sorry crappy spelling) . shoot at my high school... when a girl was pregnant (saw 3) they didnt even graduate highscool. If the girl chooses to have the abortion shes telling you she cant handle the kid... yet you wanna give the parents the ability to basically say no and force the birth. i just dont understand why, especially with the thinking that they cant handle the decision process but they can handle a kid.. and growing up all at once.

Medic... i dont know how else to answer you but this...

My beliefs and the way i was raised have told me that the woman should have the right to choose what is done to her body. Im voting no on 8 because i believe that the WOMAN should have the right to decide what is done to her own body, not the government and not her parents. The simple fact of this is that your anti-abortion period... and im pro.... so your underage argument i have a hard time hearing because i know you dont think an 18 year old woman a 15 year old woman or any woman for that matter should be able to make this decision. (making assumptions i know and i apologize but you did say your anti abortion) I really dont know how else to tell you but that my thinking and your thinking are completely different... im super anti-church and what is taught in church what can i say

 

Thread winner

 

You got my pov right and I know they're different on abortion itself.

But do you think your position is going to encourage premarital sex and lead our youth to use excuses instead of dealing with the consequences of their actions though?

It's just not healthy for the two kids to have sex in the first place (they're not mentaly ready), nor healthy for her to have an abortion mentally or physically, nor good for society to "save" our teens from learning the reality of making decisions. And that lack of learning the reality of living with accountability and responsibilty will harm society as a whole.

 

Medic... i HONESTLY do not think that no on 8 is going to encourage kids to have MORE (lets face it, their already doing it) premarital sex. The laws already on the books... upholding the law isnt going to cause an increase in teenage pregnancies. So the teenage body isnt ready to handle an abortion but its ready to handle child birth? The teenage brain isnt ready to handle an abortion, but the teenage brain is ready to be the only teenage girl on the block with a kid? the only teenage girl on the block that needs a babysitter to go to prom? Accountability is all good... but at what cost?? the teenage girls future?? I feel like the children having children is a bad cycle that will have a worse affect on society than a society who didnt learn the hard way on teenage pregnancy.

 

 

I don't want the kid to have an excuse. I'm tired of kids and their pampered *** lives and screwing (no pun intended) around all the damn time. Did you see what happened here in UC last weekend, over 100 teens ganged up on 2 cops... no damn fear anymore.

I don't want to punish them, I want them to be responsible. I'm not against premarital sex, I'm FOR premarital sex and dating, but I want kids to be responsible for once. Again, no kid should be getting knocked up anymore. NOT A SINGLE ONE, because birth control and condoms are everywhere, and when combined is like 99.8% effective.

I just want them to be responsible. If you having sex use the pill, and use condoms as well. If you feel you can handle sex, you better be able to handle any and all consequences. It's poor judgment to engage in sex and no think about getting a disease or having a baby, it's absolutely poor judgment and thinking. if they want to have sex, I'm all for it, but they better be safe and better use the contraception, and face an consequences that arise later.

That goes for anything in life really.

 

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oh so an interesting point I just found out about this prop.

so if a child needs to inform someone besides their mother or father, the doctor of the child needs to report the parents to CPS first, before they can notify another family member.