Yeah, that's an invalid statement, you could make the same arguement for a teacher, a parent or even a nextdoor neighbor. Anyone who is accomplice to anything like this should be prosecuted *** well. But wait, we've strayed off topic, why? Because you're trying to justify and make an excuse for Religious FANATICS by saying that "other people do bad things too!".
I didn't attack it because I wanted to "demonize the faith", I just pointed out that the beliefs listed contradict what really goes on in most islamic countries. Got it, probably not, I'll get home and read another post about how I'm an anti islamic bigot who wants to turn the middle east to glass. I DON'T HATE MUSLIMS, I HATE FANATIC EXTREMISTS. But this guy says they don't exist, so where do you go from there.

 

True, but it is rare for Catholics to advertise that some of their priests are going to Hell also...

They don't defend those Muslims either though. And, as was brought up a few posts up, they actually DO say that they're not really Muslims if they don't follow the pillars...

It should be said, also, that some of the Catholic priests who were guilty were merely transfered to different churches...if that's not worse than this websites failure to address your concerns about extreamist Muslims...

 

Bingo, but they don't address these questions. They dance around them, If they strait up said "these people and thier actions violate everything our religeon encompasses, therefore they cannot be considered islamic" we wouldn't be having this conversation, but they don't. Also where do you think they come up with thier extremist beliefs? Do they pull them out of thier ***? No they don't, they're taught to them in SOME religous schools by SOME religeous clerics.

 

Wrong, SOME of them do, they learn thier beliefs from extremist clerics.

 

I can't decifer your last two posts Vibe...I think maybe there's a quoting error or something.

 

12.The RIGHT to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

Is this before or after the clitorectomy?

Salty or whoever... look at the poster's post count. That deserves an automatic spam nomination.

 

Fixed, sorry

 

That's the first good question/comment I've heard today. It's a great question, and I believe there are many Muslims who would like that question answered.

It's just speculation, but maybe it's because the type of Muslims who are offended by the acts of ObL are also the type that think Fatwas in general are too extreme...just speculation though...

 

That was one of my points, SOME(for you MVWRX so you don't automaticly think I'm talking about ALL things and ALL people anymore) of these rules blatently contradict what goes on in SOME islamic governments.

 

You can't say mine in contrived when it clearly shows how numerous people feel. It's just a hypothetical example that still holds valid regardless if you think it’s a worthwhile statement. Duh… If I knew someone was a good person then of course I wouldn't be reserved. You cannot look past religion in this comparison because the fact of the matter is you do not know what lies beneath the surface. My best friend’s (subaruguru) fiancee is Muslim and I think she’s awesome. Then again I know she’s a good person from the start so it doesn’t apply in this case.

Also, if a prejudice means protecting ones family based on not introducing a Muslim into the picture then who's fault is this? The owners of askamuslim.com know this answer, do you? Not introducing what one fears [an unknown Muslim as far as they're concerned] makes their security absolute in this respect. You see, you're confusing fear as prejudice.

I love that whole prejudice argument when it comes to this debate. It's not like Christian girl scouts are as notorious as Islamic extremists. If we’re so prejudice then why in the hell aren’t those girl scouts on the FBI watch list? News flash! It’s because they aren’t killing people like these Muslim extremists are.

 

I supose I did confuse fear with prejudice...although you could say that fear is the root of all prejudices.

My point about your hypothetical situation is this: you're making the assumption that you're gonna let someone you don't know in your home. With that assumption, you'd rather have someone that is Christian than Muslim be that unknown person. The assumption is a little absurd to begin with seeing as the point of the hypothetical situation is to proove what is more fearsome...because letting anyone that is unknown in is fearsome. BUT, you're right, a lot of people would agree with that statement...because they have false securities in Christianity and false fears of the average Muslim. Like I said...fear is the root of prejudice...

BTW, just because many people feel how you do doesn't mean that it's a good way to feel or that it isn't contrived. I know you know that, though, from other conversations.

 

Yes, but the Red Crescent is probably feared by some Americans and the Red Cross is considered a great thing by most; even though both have proven to do a lot more good than bad. Comparing little girls of either faith to adolescent-to-middle-aged men of either faith will always have the little girls look more innocent...no kidding, right? Lets compare apples to apples. You and the FBI would be more affraid of a Muslim that works at 7-11 than a white male that works at a gas station...even though we've seen examples of both who have ended up being terrorists/murderers/rapists/all around bad guys.

 

never mind

 

*sigh* Your point is irrelevant regarding this topic because the website in question isn't askagasattendant.com or askastoreclerk.com. Nice correlation to the store clerk BTW... you sure you aren't the racist one?

My point is that there's a reason why we're going after these terrorists that match a given mold 99% of the time and not girl scouts or middle aged men for that matter. The fact that most of them happen to be Muslim is NO coincidence either. Therefore, it's not prejudice in the traditional sense. People have the right to be protective and concerned for their own well being without being a bigot. In fact, I’d think this type of behavior is normal given the times and uncertainty.

But I’ll play your game. Compare how many Muslim terrorists there are compared to non-Muslim terrorists and get back to me. And remember, you're comparing apples to apples so petty ELF members don't count even though the FBI added them to be more PC regarding terrorism. I want people that will get 10 consecutive life sentences or a dead or alive bounty on their head. I don’t want those that are destined for a 3-5yr slap on the wrist and early probation for good behavior just so they can continue their insignificant life in Seattle. Answer this please.