OMFG, can you prove your moronity any more. Hah. If you ever took the time to check out some of our **** Kings serious posts you would realize he has more intelligent and pertinent information to share than you could ever hope to understand. I just gotta laugh at you, thats all I can muster.

And yes most of us do have kids.

<I shake my head and chuckle about the stupidity on the `net>

 

Thats the only intelligent post I have seen from you. Bravo for that... <clapping hands>

 

Hmm, I have only driven my friends cheap-azz Vette (if you can call any of em cheap, but its the lowest model) and while it did have more get-up-and-go than the STi (mind you we are all still breaking them in, it sucks, but has to be done) I feel more at ease in the STi.

The suspension is MIGHTY rough, seems on par with the vette. My preggy wife doesnt exactly like it, but maybe it will scare the darn kid out since he's due in about a week anyways.

There is considerable understeer under acceleration in turns and if you get off the throttle you get a sudden case of major oversteer. Sorta hard to get used to, but I found that putting dccd fully rear helps out a bit. Just like a powerful fwd car and its torque steer.

Im no techy, the other STi owners here are much more knowledgeable than I am and Im sure one they have them broken in you will get some very nice information from them. Like mentioned before we have a auto-x tune day on May 31st that ought to provide some nice feedback for all of us.

 

well, i've driven a lamborghini diablo once, but never an STi. this is not apples to apples however, more like apples to oranges. let me tell you though, that ********a gots some power. i just blip the throttle once and it just want's to go, it's a bit scary and would take some getting used to. i can't imagine what the murcielago is like, AWD, 600 hp car. that must take off the line like a bull in a ring.

 

Everyone gets all freaked out when they read the word "oversteer" in the same sentence with STi handling. When I race my RS at Solo II events, it does sometimes oversteer...and I have over $3000 in suspension mods on it. Before anyone attacks my driving "ability", I have been doing this for a few years now and I'm usually in the top two or three in our SM class (which has M3's, WRX's and turboed 240's). Any AWD car can oversteer...it happens...doesn't mean it's a fault with the car. I'm pretty sure if you push an EVO hard enough, it will oversteer as well.

 

Im definitely not faulting the car here. Heck with that much power when you get on the throttle and all 4 wheels have 300ft lbs of torque its going to want to go straight and when you get off the throttle its going to want to do more in the direction of your turn. Just a comment on what I saw. I just never had it that bad in my Camaro, but that was a different beast all together. I never pushed my tsi or gsx this hard and they just dont have the same power.

 

I'm no Fangio - but isn't power-on, controlled oversteer the best new part of the newest STi? Did you guys see the Japanese Best Motoring DVD where they test the '03 vs. '04 STi? Of course they're both 2.0l versions but all of the gains made in controllability and time in the gymkhana course were found due to instant engine response and controlled oversteer...
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Im sure its a bonus for those that know how to use it. I dont think I ever said it was a fault of the car, just something that I wasnt yet comfortable with. Definitely oversteer is nice in my limited experience just dont lift in a turn or the sudden understeer might get you into trouble. Also experienced that a couple times, on purpose just to test my theory. Made some runs on Nuuanu (sp?) and was testing this. The oversteer is nice since you can correct mid turn with a little throttle, I just had to get off throttle abruptly a couple times and it was a little un-nerving is all.

So, IM NOT SAYING THIS IS A FAULT! Just sharing my experiences so far.

 

Ok, I just mis-used the wording above.

There is considerable OVERSTEER under acceleration in turns and if you get off the throttle you get a sudden case of major UNDERSTEER. My bad. Rum is a bad thing...

 

I think the dccd settings should solve some of the problems of understeer.
But in auto mode it will react faster to changing conditions.

I guess Subaru was concerned with safety
(Not all drivers will be able to push this car to its limits)
Most manufacturers build understeer in their cars for safety.

As far as an aftermarket LSD, IMHO I would think the Subaru
engineers know more than the average mortal, I would not change it.

I have about 3 hours driving this car on the freeway
I have to say this car is a totaly different animal from the WRX.
3rd gear drops are unbelivable like the VTEC on Hondas,
the engine note puts out a different tone @ 6k.
Trubo kicking at 2700revs full boost at 3300revs
Active valve control kicking on at 6000revs.
one can only imagine the programing required
to accomplish this.
And people are asking for discounts?
Unbelivable!