The Mach5 - v 2.0
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Originally posted by gpatmac
Dude, what does **** have to do with a review of an STI? Or with the efficacy of a moderator? Is the the Catholic forum? Cliff's our mod and we think he's just fine. It seems to me Alex likes him just fine, too.
If you got your feelings hurt, sorry, but grow up and go find some more **** links in our forum (well, better go ask mommy first. I don't want to be a bad influence)
Dude, what does **** have to do with a review of an STI? Or with the efficacy of a moderator? Is the the Catholic forum? Cliff's our mod and we think he's just fine. It seems to me Alex likes him just fine, too.
If you got your feelings hurt, sorry, but grow up and go find some more **** links in our forum (well, better go ask mommy first. I don't want to be a bad influence)
it's funny How if I type the letters S H I T using this forum's email engine, it scrambles the letters when I send it. You CAN'T swear here, but you can have access to some pretty explicit and graphic **** sites.
Look, I don't care that you guys look at ****. I do care that you guys do it in a public all access forum.
By the way do anyone of you guys have kids? I'm guessing NO.
"Hey mom, I'm NOT looking at a **** site, I'm just on the I-club forum learning about the STi coming to Hawaii".
I guess if I'm the only one that feels this way, then you're right. I need to take my stupid Evo/Neon considering attitude elsewhere.
Cheers,
A father
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Originally posted by Mach5WRX
I'm not trying to be a jerk by this....
Get a G35 coupe then. It's a super car, and everyone loves it. I think you'd be more happy with the G35.
Let someone else get the STi that doesn't care about what other people think.
I'm not trying to be a jerk by this....
Get a G35 coupe then. It's a super car, and everyone loves it. I think you'd be more happy with the G35.
Let someone else get the STi that doesn't care about what other people think.
Oh, and no I don't think you're a jerk for giving me zero credit and inferring I'm shallow.
It's all good in the hood.
I do though have the ***** to state publicly that perception _is_ a part of my 'math' as I will be living with which ever I choose for at least 3 years and it will be representing me, not the other way around. I'd be willing to bet that it is also a part of most other folks buying decision too at some level. Otherwise we'd be seeing more pink, fuschia and 'primer gray' cars in our neighbors driveways.
Now if I happened to live on an island in the South Pacific then maybe public opinion & perception might not matter. But here in the 'big city' where its at times literally dog eat dog and folks are known to eat there children to get ahead, an edge is an edge and perception is most often construed or spun as fact.
I'm on the edge regarding the STi and the G35 Coupe (6SMT) for a number of reasons including the fact that one is generally accepted as both beautiful and more befitting my age & place in life while the other is shall we say an acquired taste best suited for impressing gearhead dudes on 'The Streets' and will probably garner thoughts by my associates that I've bumped my head or am going through a 'pre-mid life crisis'. But then I am best known for being a "maverick", "contrarian" and "unclassifiable".
As for what you 'think' I'd be "more happy with", thanks for your assesment but you don't know me. Not even my wife who's known me everyday of the last ten years and through 8 vastly varying vehicles knows what I'll be most happy with. So how the heck do you, or are you known IRL as 'Mr. Cleo'?
I was just asking a question as per your orignal invitation to the group. The last thing I expected or wanted was to catch attitude for responding and being honest in my queries & quest for information. But please excuse my naivete as I'm relatively new here as I suspect will soon be pointed out.
For some wacky reason I'd thought folks were here to share information, not rip on those who ask questions when invited and/or dare to have an opinion thats a few degrees left or right of TDC...
Thank you for your time and information.
- Janq
Last edited by Janq; May 13, 2003 at 07:59 PM.
my question is, why does everybody drool over the STi anyway? it's just a car. in terms of special and all that other stuff, it's pretty special in the sense that it was the first WRX to hit the shores and is the cause of many other things such as the Evolution and Neon's to come into the market. this car was one of the things that started everything. if that's not special, then i don't know what is. also, the design is something of originality, not into the mainstream. many people don't or didn't like the bug-eyed look, they said it was ugly, but that's all subjective. i wouldn't say the WRX is ugly, green honda's, gay-a$$ designs on cars, altezza lights, etc. that is ugly, the WRX is original. there's a fine line between the two.
i just don't know the reason why people want to know sooo much about the STi. it's still just a car as well as my WRX, is just a car. now, what we make of it is all that matters. so, who cares what others think, who cares what magazines say, and who cares if you get one or not. if not, get the Evolution, i'm sure you won't be disappointed. yeah it only has a 5-speed, but it's a proven highly engineered car that has a history like or if not, more in-depth than the STi. these two cars are very similar, just pick and choose. just don't for goodness sake buy a neon, that's an american car trying to jump on the JDM market, there's no comparison. for americans, it's all about speed and going straight, for the japanese it's all about tracks and times. i give props to Mach5 or angry Dan whichever, because he's just stating what he feels about the STi in his best opinion, and he's not trying to bullsh!t anyone. hey Dan, maybe you shouldn't answer their questions if they're going to give you slack like that. you're only wasting your breath. if you want to get one, then get one, if not then hush. one more thing, there are many people here selling their WRX's because they want to buy the STi, why? the WRX is just as good, in my opinion. it's what you make of it. i love my WRX and wouldn't trade it for anything, maybe a skyline.
i just don't know the reason why people want to know sooo much about the STi. it's still just a car as well as my WRX, is just a car. now, what we make of it is all that matters. so, who cares what others think, who cares what magazines say, and who cares if you get one or not. if not, get the Evolution, i'm sure you won't be disappointed. yeah it only has a 5-speed, but it's a proven highly engineered car that has a history like or if not, more in-depth than the STi. these two cars are very similar, just pick and choose. just don't for goodness sake buy a neon, that's an american car trying to jump on the JDM market, there's no comparison. for americans, it's all about speed and going straight, for the japanese it's all about tracks and times. i give props to Mach5 or angry Dan whichever, because he's just stating what he feels about the STi in his best opinion, and he's not trying to bullsh!t anyone. hey Dan, maybe you shouldn't answer their questions if they're going to give you slack like that. you're only wasting your breath. if you want to get one, then get one, if not then hush. one more thing, there are many people here selling their WRX's because they want to buy the STi, why? the WRX is just as good, in my opinion. it's what you make of it. i love my WRX and wouldn't trade it for anything, maybe a skyline.
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Originally posted by clamdip
hey Dan, maybe you shouldn't answer their questions if they're going to give you slack like that. you're only wasting your breath.
hey Dan, maybe you shouldn't answer their questions if they're going to give you slack like that. you're only wasting your breath.
Sorry I can't answer the questions the way you people want me to. Sorry I was trying to help some people out.
I'm going to go look at some **** now.
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This is exactly why the internet is super. Janq - I think you are reading too much into this. I don't think anybody was giving you "attitude" at all. I surely couldn't see any problem with any of requests for information you were posting regarding Dan's experience with the STi. You were being very articulate and specific about the information that you wanted - and you were being gracious about Dan taking the time to answer your questions. Personally, I'd be VERY happy to own either vehicle - the performance/potential in the STi is ENORMOUS, and the sex appeal of the G35 is undeniable.
Agent - I'm going to disregard your **** references because they are completely off-topic.
I think you are probably a nice guy. I think you probably have (or had) a legitimate interest in the STi. I think you have a desire to know certain specifics about the vehicle. I also think that you need to review the manner in which you stated your assessment of Dan's performance in answering questions that were posed to him in this thread.
Do you feel that if this were a situation in "physical reality" and you popped your head up out of the peanut gallery crowd gathered around Dan and his brand spanking new STi while he was entertaining questions regarding said vehicle and commented "Hey - you're being vague and of a complete lack of help here with your answers... You're making me want to buy an Evo! What's the deal here?" that he'd be inclined to answer your questions further or even be nice enough to pay any attention to you? I don't think so.
Just food for thought.
I assure you Dan never had any intention to be misleading, curt, or anything less than helpful or forthcoming in his replies. I'm not so sure that could be said of you and your commentary on the "job" that he did.
Am I way off base here?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Update
Originally posted by Janq
Now if I happened to live on an island in the South Pacific then maybe public opinion & perception might not matter. But here in the 'big city' where its at times literally dog eat dog and folks are known to eat there children to get ahead, an edge is an edge and perception is most often construed or spun as fact.
Now if I happened to live on an island in the South Pacific then maybe public opinion & perception might not matter. But here in the 'big city' where its at times literally dog eat dog and folks are known to eat there children to get ahead, an edge is an edge and perception is most often construed or spun as fact.
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Wow - now that I've re-read this whole thread a couple of times I am even more convinced that you were just being a jerk, Agent.
I mean Dan was on here every couple of MINUTES answering questions that were posed to him by Janq (to the best of his ability I might add). He had already posted his initial impressions (as did Cliff, and Pat) in a much longer, more detailed form earlier on in the thread.
You then jumped in with this:
I don't see how answering specific questions truthfully that were posed to him (information which would not otherwise be available to you) is being vague and uninformative?
Are you having better luck on the Evo board?
If you were sorry to sound like an *** maybe you should have rephrased your post before hitting the reply button?
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I mean Dan was on here every couple of MINUTES answering questions that were posed to him by Janq (to the best of his ability I might add). He had already posted his initial impressions (as did Cliff, and Pat) in a much longer, more detailed form earlier on in the thread.
You then jumped in with this:
Wow, could the replys from Mach5WRX be any more vague and uninformative.
This thread is making me take a closer look at the Evo.
Sorry to sound like an ***, just speaking my mind.
This thread is making me take a closer look at the Evo.
Sorry to sound like an ***, just speaking my mind.
Are you having better luck on the Evo board?
If you were sorry to sound like an *** maybe you should have rephrased your post before hitting the reply button?
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Last edited by IS2Scooby; May 13, 2003 at 09:23 PM.
what a bunch of f*cking loosers! 
Dan, .... why do you even bother??
and agent2.8, Yes, ... there are a lot of people in the Hawaii forums who are fathers, ..... that is our forum, we don't bring our kids to the computer to browse threads when we're BS-ing with our friends.
I think everyone would agree that you need to take your 2.8 inch dick elsewhere if you're just going to be a troll!!
Dan, .... why do you even bother??
and agent2.8, Yes, ... there are a lot of people in the Hawaii forums who are fathers, ..... that is our forum, we don't bring our kids to the computer to browse threads when we're BS-ing with our friends.
I think everyone would agree that you need to take your 2.8 inch dick elsewhere if you're just going to be a troll!!
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Ditchhanger, MauiJammer, Mach5WRX, others:
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my and other's questions. First hand experience is the best source of information. I'm hoping to obtain some first hand experience with a STi soon.
Road & Track commented that the STi and Evo ride harder than a Boxster. I personally found this to be a fairly useless statement because the Boxster rides great IMHO. If they told me, it rode significantly worse than a Viper or had extremely twitchy handling I may think about getting off the waiting list.
My only request would be to compare the performance of the STi to sports cars that the average reader may have experienced -- hence my reference to the Corvette or the Viper.
Clamdip:
I'm interested in the STi because it offers greater overall performance than many of the exotic cars I drooled over when I was younger at a reasonable price. It just sounds fun to me. I agree it is just a car, so I'm not going to get into any of that over MSRP crap. I have offers to sell STi's at MSRP already from multiple dealers and the car isn't out yet. My usually wise brother thinks I should wait one year to see if the real or imagined handling deficiencies have been ironed out, the frenzy has sufficiently died down, and straight black exterior paint without gold flake has been introduced.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my and other's questions. First hand experience is the best source of information. I'm hoping to obtain some first hand experience with a STi soon.
Road & Track commented that the STi and Evo ride harder than a Boxster. I personally found this to be a fairly useless statement because the Boxster rides great IMHO. If they told me, it rode significantly worse than a Viper or had extremely twitchy handling I may think about getting off the waiting list.
My only request would be to compare the performance of the STi to sports cars that the average reader may have experienced -- hence my reference to the Corvette or the Viper.
Clamdip:
I'm interested in the STi because it offers greater overall performance than many of the exotic cars I drooled over when I was younger at a reasonable price. It just sounds fun to me. I agree it is just a car, so I'm not going to get into any of that over MSRP crap. I have offers to sell STi's at MSRP already from multiple dealers and the car isn't out yet. My usually wise brother thinks I should wait one year to see if the real or imagined handling deficiencies have been ironed out, the frenzy has sufficiently died down, and straight black exterior paint without gold flake has been introduced.
damn.....I'm glad I've only been replying to post about the STI rather than starting my own thread. How dare someone make negative comments on how YOU answered SOMEONE ELSES questions. It's just my personal view but I think my fellow STI owners did a decent job entertaining questions (and I've owned and been driving a USDM STI for as long as anyone else in this country).
Good job Mach5WRX, Ditchhanger, MauiJammer!!!
Rude people **** me off....atleast people like markd are appreciative of the time people spend......
Sorry for being so negative but.......wtf
Good job Mach5WRX, Ditchhanger, MauiJammer!!!
Rude people **** me off....atleast people like markd are appreciative of the time people spend......
Sorry for being so negative but.......wtf
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Damn , I'm real confused now.
This whole thing went from a 'Steel Cage Match' for two to a 'Battle Royale'. We got everybody jumpin' in the ring and even 'Sgt. Slaughter' came out of retirement to lay the smack down.
This thread has got more action than 'Blind Date' and is more fun to watch than Sumi Das on 'TechTV'!
<Poof> <Pow> <Bip> <Bap>
<doh!>
- Janq
This whole thing went from a 'Steel Cage Match' for two to a 'Battle Royale'. We got everybody jumpin' in the ring and even 'Sgt. Slaughter' came out of retirement to lay the smack down.
This thread has got more action than 'Blind Date' and is more fun to watch than Sumi Das on 'TechTV'!
<Poof> <Pow> <Bip> <Bap>
<doh!>
- Janq
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Ha ha ha.
I paused myself while I was writing that because I felt bad for going OT with this thread, which could be a valuable tool for those of you in the mainland. I guess I hit 'submit reply' because someone had already taken it down the sewer....and because I didn't have anything more objective to write.
I'm erasing the earlier post.
I paused myself while I was writing that because I felt bad for going OT with this thread, which could be a valuable tool for those of you in the mainland. I guess I hit 'submit reply' because someone had already taken it down the sewer....and because I didn't have anything more objective to write.
I'm erasing the earlier post.