17-18 yr olds in an Sti? Why?
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Okay I guess I'm gona probably be flamed for this but so be it. I am 19 and I got my rex when I was 18. I think it is very unfair to say that because I am a younger driver I should not drive cars like the new STi. My car has over 300 hp and that is not near the fastest car I have driven. I used to valet for a restaurant where it was nothing to see at least a dozen cars a night that cost over 200k. I think maturity does not necessarily come with age. Sure in some cases this may be true but I think it has more to do with the individual. I also think it is unfair to say those of us that did not have to buy their car them selves are spoiled. Different parents have different beliefs. I will say I personally did not pay for my car, but I do pay for my mods. I also do not pay for my insurance. Now after hearing this I would imagine that many of you think I'm spoiled but I don't actually think I am. In return for all the things my parents provide me they do ask for things in return. When I get tickets it is my responsibility to pay for them. Also if I ever got into some serious problems like street racing I know it will be completely up to me. I will have to pay all the fines, the insurance, and probably my parents back for my car. As long as I am responsible and maintain good grades my parents will continue to aid me in these things.
good points, but the main concern here is not if you drive a fast car or not. the STi will not be a very cheap car, not like the WRX. that as well as the insurance. now, for $35,000.00+ insurance coverage, that's a pretty hefty price for just a car. hell, that's a semester or 2 investment at a good college. now, you probable got your car for a good price, like most of us may have, however, the question is, would your parents have bought you a 35,000.00 car like the STi? that's the main concern here. now, there are a some in the world that don't even have the slightest idea of responsibility and yet their parents buy them a fast, expensive car which most of them may treat like s&^t. the key point here is principals. where are they at now days. hey, if you have money, then power to you. but some have to think what's more important in life besides a car. 17-18 year olds for the majority still have immature minds. their priorities aren't straight. as much as they want think how grown up they are, bottom line, they're not. they haven't even experienced the real world yet. now you want to give them a fast, expensive car? come on.
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I agree that many would not be ready for the responsibility but I will say, I think some of us can, and I believe it is unfair to catagorize all young adults as having a lack of responsibility.
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Originally posted by 128d
I agree that many would not be ready for the responsibility but I will say, I think some of us can, and I believe it is unfair to catagorize all young adults as having a lack of responsibility.
I agree that many would not be ready for the responsibility but I will say, I think some of us can, and I believe it is unfair to catagorize all young adults as having a lack of responsibility.
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P.S. Somebody lock this thread. This has been beaten around enough.
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Originally posted by samurai
This thread is not about catagorizing all young adults as misguided, immature juvenile delinquents. The point is, if you can't afford both, then why spend it on an object that you want. Spend the money on what you need. Argue all you wish about what it is, but ask yourself, where will one Sti get you compared to where one good college degree will get you.
This thread is not about catagorizing all young adults as misguided, immature juvenile delinquents. The point is, if you can't afford both, then why spend it on an object that you want. Spend the money on what you need. Argue all you wish about what it is, but ask yourself, where will one Sti get you compared to where one good college degree will get you.
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For my 17th b-day, my family bought me a 03 wrx. I went from a non turbo eclipse 2nd gen to a very powerful machine. I know the power it has and i dont abuse any of it. I dont go to stupid street races, i just love my car. It dependents how responsible the kid is. Also the state of mind and maturity. I for one try to drive as safe as humanily possible.
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Alright, I'm 18 years old and I for the most part agree with you guys that giving someone my age a car that is high preformance can be a bad idea. The thing I would take into consideration is how much experience does the kid have driving in general.
It's not fair to rationalize the young driving community although it can be true most of the time.
Myself I've driving 1986 Cadillac fleetwood, 1989 Buick Century (my car) , 1993 buick leSabre, 1999 Acura Integra, 1993 Chevy 2500, 2000 Ford Mustang GT.
I've had a pretty wide range of vehicles i've driven with a variety of preformance levels. If you were to give me a car such as the STi I would be extatic, but I also believe that I could handle myself in a better manner than a 16 or 17 year old. Someone that age might say how can you make a difference between 1 or 2 years. There is a lot though. First of all I drive a lot of highway and learned to drive in Downtown Chicago. These experiences are the first reason why new drivers should not be given high preformance cars, because they do not know how to handle a regular car in a sticky situation first.
Then there is always the agrument that given the preformance of a vehicle a teen may not be able to handle it. Which is true because most young drivers do not have respect for the machines that they are driving. I dont know how many of my friends have wreaked mustangs, camaros, their dads beemer.
So overall i think that you really need to look at the type of person that is driving the car. The unfortunate thing is you can't really know that so it's a safe assumption to say that teen drivers can be bad news overall.
So in conclusion everyone should start off with a basic car, and if you do start off with something containing power like a Mustang, STi, there must be a level of respect for the vehicle you are driving. If you think about it that a car is a weapon you might be able to look at it in a more sensible light.
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It's not fair to rationalize the young driving community although it can be true most of the time.
Myself I've driving 1986 Cadillac fleetwood, 1989 Buick Century (my car) , 1993 buick leSabre, 1999 Acura Integra, 1993 Chevy 2500, 2000 Ford Mustang GT.
I've had a pretty wide range of vehicles i've driven with a variety of preformance levels. If you were to give me a car such as the STi I would be extatic, but I also believe that I could handle myself in a better manner than a 16 or 17 year old. Someone that age might say how can you make a difference between 1 or 2 years. There is a lot though. First of all I drive a lot of highway and learned to drive in Downtown Chicago. These experiences are the first reason why new drivers should not be given high preformance cars, because they do not know how to handle a regular car in a sticky situation first.
Then there is always the agrument that given the preformance of a vehicle a teen may not be able to handle it. Which is true because most young drivers do not have respect for the machines that they are driving. I dont know how many of my friends have wreaked mustangs, camaros, their dads beemer.
So overall i think that you really need to look at the type of person that is driving the car. The unfortunate thing is you can't really know that so it's a safe assumption to say that teen drivers can be bad news overall.
So in conclusion everyone should start off with a basic car, and if you do start off with something containing power like a Mustang, STi, there must be a level of respect for the vehicle you are driving. If you think about it that a car is a weapon you might be able to look at it in a more sensible light.
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another note
Also if you have the money for a nice car the chances are your parents will get you one, because all parents want to give the best for thier children. Although sometimes its for other reasons.
I had the "pleasure"
of attending a rather rich high school for one year. And saw this happening daily. And again what did I see No respect for the machine. Dad will just get a new one if I break it.
If your going to get a car like that great, more power to you, and have fun. Just don't be stupid, and have respect for the machine that you are using.
I had the "pleasure"
of attending a rather rich high school for one year. And saw this happening daily. And again what did I see No respect for the machine. Dad will just get a new one if I break it. If your going to get a car like that great, more power to you, and have fun. Just don't be stupid, and have respect for the machine that you are using.
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Originally posted by STiGuy300
If you think about it that a car is a weapon you might be able to look at it in a more sensible light.
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If you think about it that a car is a weapon you might be able to look at it in a more sensible light.
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Its totaly untrue. I m 17 and I m driving a Subaru Impreza Wrx 2002 for already 10 months and jump from a 90 toyota camry which blow an engine. If you know how to respect your car then you will be a safe driver..
Its totaly untrue. I m 17 and I m driving a Subaru Impreza Wrx 2002 for already 10 months and jump from a 90 toyota camry which blow an engine. If you know how to respect your car then you will be a safe driver..
And yes for some people it is an easy transition if you respect the capabilities of your vehicle. For others this is a bit of a problem
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speaking of rich kids??
I attended a rather Rich high school as well in northern New Jersey, and there was one kid who had a silver Audi S4, but people made fun of him because it was automatic, so he told his parents and they traded it in for a newer (1 year newer model) 6spd S4... in the parking lot along with those 20 BMWs, 3 Corvettes, Hummer, numerous $30k+ SUVs... and i just rumbled along in my 1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z (yes i am italian jersey trash) that i paid for myself working... now thats gone and I really want a WRX, but im waiting college out first...
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