17-18 yr olds in an Sti? Why?
Just some personal thoughts.
While reading this thread, I'm sure there are kids (or even non-kids) who would just paid a laughter and walk away. And I wonder how many and how many of them would probably face another dangerous incident soon enough....
Teens or younger folks who replied to this thread are more likely the "mature" ones. This is good. But why don't these younger groups (including myself :-) take some time and just try to spread this message to some of our friends? I'm sure that'd be much better than we just talking and exchanging personal experiences here.
While reading this thread, I'm sure there are kids (or even non-kids) who would just paid a laughter and walk away. And I wonder how many and how many of them would probably face another dangerous incident soon enough....
Teens or younger folks who replied to this thread are more likely the "mature" ones. This is good. But why don't these younger groups (including myself :-) take some time and just try to spread this message to some of our friends? I'm sure that'd be much better than we just talking and exchanging personal experiences here.
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I am 18 and have had four cars since I got my license. Currently I have a 1994 RX-7 R-2 in perfect stock condition. I think that the people my age that are interested in the STi are not the reckless adolescents that you may see burning around your block every chance they get. Let’s admit it, the STi is a young man's car. It is directed at young car enthusiasts like myself to drool over and dream about owning. The careless types that use performance inappropriately are the ones that are spoiled with the new $40,000 BMW or Audi. I'm a senor at a wealthy private school so I see it daily. People think I'm nuts for even having an interest in a car that isn't a BMW. The young people that appreciate what this car is all about are the ones that respect it. We are the ones who don't just see it as a toy. If an 18-year-old has the money to get one and buys it over a BMW I say more power to them. They can look past their social standing and get a car that Joe average can appreciate rather than buy into their image obsessed society that they are forced into. Those people are a dying breed.
Oh yeah, and I'm planning on getting one.
Oh yeah, and I'm planning on getting one.
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im 17 yrs old turning 18 this may. to be prefectly honest i am utterly in love with the new STi and given the opportunity i would take one whether i bought it or it was offered to me by a parent or other relative, i mean who wouldn't? but on the other side of things i've seen the pictures and read the articles describing kdis my age be absolutely stupid and thinking they are god-like and nothing will happen to them. personally i love wathing the WRC and am completely infatuated with it, but i am at the same time scared of cars with that much power. i have a 180 hp car right now and have had some close calls on a road by myself. i deffinatly learn form these and i try not to do it again, i've scared myself during these times and form them i learn. im not going out driving thinking i own the road or im amazing but im trying to make the best use of my car at the same time and in doing so learn more about it. im thinking of getting a job at our locacl mechanic shop as cars are my life. but basically what im trying to say is that i have a healthy respect for cars with as much power as the new STi, but at the same time where would anyone be in life if they never had the option to step up?
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I'm a 19 year old driver (soon to be 20).. my first vehicle was a 90 cherokee.. I-6, big, loud, slow... There's nothing wrong with 17 and 18 year olds driving 300hp cars, but when they don't know how to handle the car, then they deffinitely don't deserve it... there's no point in getting a great car and totalling it..
Everyone wants a fast car and dealers keep supplying people with faster cars.. you don't see cars getting slower.. so with all these potential disasters already lined up, there's no doubt that a 16-18 year old's first car is bound to get totalled (plus an increase in the death rate), but then again, there are a number of "mature" young drivers as some of you put it, that know racing belongs on a track. It's also good to hear that many of them do race on a track a real sport.
Everyone wants a fast car and dealers keep supplying people with faster cars.. you don't see cars getting slower.. so with all these potential disasters already lined up, there's no doubt that a 16-18 year old's first car is bound to get totalled (plus an increase in the death rate), but then again, there are a number of "mature" young drivers as some of you put it, that know racing belongs on a track. It's also good to hear that many of them do race on a track a real sport.
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First off compared to most of the subscribers to this thread I am 'old' at 27. But contrary to a number of opinions given by other 'old' people I firmly believe that 'youngsters' can handle the Sti. If you look at the statistics you 'youngsters' are effin DOOMED. Might as well just hand me the keys
The first car I got to drive on a regular basis was my dads Isuzu Pup' truck (2.25L 5spd). But I had a real need for speed and still do. I bought my first car a '78 Camaro at age 15 for 1K. It came with 2 motors the stock 305ci V8 and a new/rebuilt 350 longblock neither were installed. It took me 2 years in ROP autoshop and roughly 3K in parts and skilled labor (trust me when I say dont try and rebuild your own T350 autotrans unless you know what your doing) but when it finally rolled out on its own power I can honestly say it was way WAY too much car for me at age 17. Very first time I pulled onto the road I accidently got into the 4 barrels, with the skinny stock tires and posi traction I fishtailed for half a city block before spinning/sliding to a stop in the middle of the road. I am alive and well and I never got into an accident in my Camaro. I learned how to drive very well at a young age 17 in a car that demanded respect. Spent alot of time in dark, wet and empty parking lots learning how to steer out of spins and slides (the muscle memory responses I acquired are still saving my bacon in rain, sleet, and snow.)
Comparing my self made deathtrap (at 120+ mph my doors would rattle badly) to the Sti some of you lucky 'youngsters' will get to learn in. Is really no comparison at all given all the active/passive safety equipment, AWD, awesome brakes etc... I would much rather put every single one of you in an Sti making 300hp, then give you the keys to a Hot Rod making 300+ hp. The Sti will be a much more forgiving teacher with an easy learning curve.
In addition speaking strictly from my experience there is an added benefit to learning to drive a fast car at a young age. When you know absolutely that you can smoke most everything on the road you can smirk at and ignore all those idiots who pull up next to you wanting to test.
Learn your car! Only drive fast when you want to, not when they do!
The first car I got to drive on a regular basis was my dads Isuzu Pup' truck (2.25L 5spd). But I had a real need for speed and still do. I bought my first car a '78 Camaro at age 15 for 1K. It came with 2 motors the stock 305ci V8 and a new/rebuilt 350 longblock neither were installed. It took me 2 years in ROP autoshop and roughly 3K in parts and skilled labor (trust me when I say dont try and rebuild your own T350 autotrans unless you know what your doing) but when it finally rolled out on its own power I can honestly say it was way WAY too much car for me at age 17. Very first time I pulled onto the road I accidently got into the 4 barrels, with the skinny stock tires and posi traction I fishtailed for half a city block before spinning/sliding to a stop in the middle of the road. I am alive and well and I never got into an accident in my Camaro. I learned how to drive very well at a young age 17 in a car that demanded respect. Spent alot of time in dark, wet and empty parking lots learning how to steer out of spins and slides (the muscle memory responses I acquired are still saving my bacon in rain, sleet, and snow.)
Comparing my self made deathtrap (at 120+ mph my doors would rattle badly) to the Sti some of you lucky 'youngsters' will get to learn in. Is really no comparison at all given all the active/passive safety equipment, AWD, awesome brakes etc... I would much rather put every single one of you in an Sti making 300hp, then give you the keys to a Hot Rod making 300+ hp. The Sti will be a much more forgiving teacher with an easy learning curve.
In addition speaking strictly from my experience there is an added benefit to learning to drive a fast car at a young age. When you know absolutely that you can smoke most everything on the road you can smirk at and ignore all those idiots who pull up next to you wanting to test.
Learn your car! Only drive fast when you want to, not when they do!
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I dont think age really matters except in the U.S. I know that in Greece you can't drive a car until you are 18. But you can ride a motorcycle if its less than 125cc from 15. To get a driver's license you have taken a 150 question exam and miss only 1, and to have more than a dozen hours behind the wheel practice from private instructors at your own expense. Beleive me when I say Greeks can drive. The similar situation goes for all of Europe. In the States however it's vastly different. Almost anyone can get a license if theyre not legally blind. This combined with the rich economy of Americans giving them the ability to buy new cars for their kids' image needs and the desire for youngsters to have the newest product and freshest car is commonplace here. Also I think the biggest problem facing kids of this age group in the US is drunk driving incedents. These incidents can happen in any car This I beleive is a problem that we dont have in Europe because we have no real drinking age and only responsible people 18 or over are allowed behind the wheel. I think parents should be more weary of getting their high school grad a Mustang than a Subaru.
Re: 17-18 yr olds in an Sti? Why?
Originally posted by samurai
Why are 17-18 yr olds thinking about getting an Sti? For the most part, kids of this age are too immature to drive this type of high-performnce machine..............................
Why are 17-18 yr olds thinking about getting an Sti? For the most part, kids of this age are too immature to drive this type of high-performnce machine..............................
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I'm a 17 year old male who shares a WRX with his father. We had a minivan, a ford explorer, and we got a honda civic recently. The explorer then died so my dad was looking at cars and I pointed him in the direction of the WRX. I didn't push him or anything, after the test drive he decided he really enjoyed it and we got the car. After learning how to drive stick on my friend's civic (didn't want to hurt the new car
) I finally got my chance at the car. The first 1000 miles were incredibly hard. I could tell this car was a rocket and I wanted so badly to punch the gas and really let loose the hounds of hell that I knew it contained.
Naturally, at mile 1001 I redlined the car in 2nd and 3rd and went home and sat in the driveway for about 5 full minutes reflecting on how amazing the vehicle is. So for about a week I drove it around 80-90mph on the highway, and then my friend loaned me his radar detector and around 2000 miles I brought it up to 120mph. I had my fun with the speed, but that novelty soon wears off.
Coming from a civic and a minivan and an SUV to the WRX was a HUGE change, and I think it was just friggin AWESOME that my dad was willing to get this car. Furthermore, he lets me drive it all the time, which is, again, awesome (and incredibly generous!). I was in love with the turbo, the handling, etc, but after I realized that you cannot go fast all the time, and you can't always get away with driving like an ******* I decided that I should baby the car, and only use its speed in appropriate occasions (like getting on the highway from a short onramp, or passing someone).
I really love the car. I still can't believe my parents got one. Every time I walk by it I'm like "damn I want that... oh wait we own it!" and it's an awesome feeling to have your dream car. I think that most kids abuse their vehicles (speeding and racing and crap) because they don't appreciate it for its full beauty. The wrx is fast, handles well, and all that, but it's also a REALLY NICE vehicle. It drives well in adverse conditions, has a slick feeling manual, and looks damn fine too. Kids should recognize that REALLY NICE vehicles are a privelage to drive, and abusing them is unfair to mom and dad if they paid for the car.
I have calmed down as a driver mainly because I am paranoid about damaging the car. I trust my own driving ability, but I really don't trust other people on the road, and there are a million different things that could happen and lead to a car-damaging accident. I don't know that my reason is the best particular one for driving safe, but I know that in the end I am at a far lesser risk of injuring myself or someone else.
I treat my WRX like it's my good friend; I don't want to hurt it. And I always rub the momo for good luck
Don't drive like an *******, and don't let your friends drive like *******s. Point it out if they're doing something incredibly stupid like STREET RACING.
Ok that's the end of my long rambling post!
) I finally got my chance at the car. The first 1000 miles were incredibly hard. I could tell this car was a rocket and I wanted so badly to punch the gas and really let loose the hounds of hell that I knew it contained.Naturally, at mile 1001 I redlined the car in 2nd and 3rd and went home and sat in the driveway for about 5 full minutes reflecting on how amazing the vehicle is. So for about a week I drove it around 80-90mph on the highway, and then my friend loaned me his radar detector and around 2000 miles I brought it up to 120mph. I had my fun with the speed, but that novelty soon wears off.
Coming from a civic and a minivan and an SUV to the WRX was a HUGE change, and I think it was just friggin AWESOME that my dad was willing to get this car. Furthermore, he lets me drive it all the time, which is, again, awesome (and incredibly generous!). I was in love with the turbo, the handling, etc, but after I realized that you cannot go fast all the time, and you can't always get away with driving like an ******* I decided that I should baby the car, and only use its speed in appropriate occasions (like getting on the highway from a short onramp, or passing someone).
I really love the car. I still can't believe my parents got one. Every time I walk by it I'm like "damn I want that... oh wait we own it!" and it's an awesome feeling to have your dream car. I think that most kids abuse their vehicles (speeding and racing and crap) because they don't appreciate it for its full beauty. The wrx is fast, handles well, and all that, but it's also a REALLY NICE vehicle. It drives well in adverse conditions, has a slick feeling manual, and looks damn fine too. Kids should recognize that REALLY NICE vehicles are a privelage to drive, and abusing them is unfair to mom and dad if they paid for the car.
I have calmed down as a driver mainly because I am paranoid about damaging the car. I trust my own driving ability, but I really don't trust other people on the road, and there are a million different things that could happen and lead to a car-damaging accident. I don't know that my reason is the best particular one for driving safe, but I know that in the end I am at a far lesser risk of injuring myself or someone else.
I treat my WRX like it's my good friend; I don't want to hurt it. And I always rub the momo for good luck

Don't drive like an *******, and don't let your friends drive like *******s. Point it out if they're doing something incredibly stupid like STREET RACING.
Ok that's the end of my long rambling post!
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Im just adding this, I am a very good driver and am forced to drive an SUV by my parents until last year. I drove around in my dads BMW 7.40i and I loved driving it. Over the last 2 years I have been working my *** off fo another car that I really will enjoy. And I come to the conclusion that the STi is really the car for me.


