17-18 yr olds in an Sti? Why?
Guest
Posts: n/a
I would just like to say that I am 18, have payed for every car I have ever owned(only 2, but still...), am leaving for the Navy next month and plan on buying a STi next summer (2004).
I know I can do stupid things on the road, but I also know that I am a very responsible driver when it comes down to it. I also agree with loudsubbie, If you are the one paying the insurance and the payments for the car your gonna be a whole lot more careful in it then if it was just given to you. It's just how people think.
I also believe that this would be a terrible car for someone just learning to drive. Every kid I have ever known has gone through the phase when he/she first gets their liscense and has to be the fastest one on the highway, and we've all calmed down, but it does take time, and unfortunately, some close calls. There are a lot of younger people who are skillful and careful enough to be driving this car, and there are a lot who aren't, but when it comes down to it whoever the lucky bastards are that get one are gonna be going fast, otherwise you wouldn't have bought one. All any of us can do is hope that everyone will realize what the car can do and use it in a responsible and safe manner.
...but that's just my opinion.
I know I can do stupid things on the road, but I also know that I am a very responsible driver when it comes down to it. I also agree with loudsubbie, If you are the one paying the insurance and the payments for the car your gonna be a whole lot more careful in it then if it was just given to you. It's just how people think.
I also believe that this would be a terrible car for someone just learning to drive. Every kid I have ever known has gone through the phase when he/she first gets their liscense and has to be the fastest one on the highway, and we've all calmed down, but it does take time, and unfortunately, some close calls. There are a lot of younger people who are skillful and careful enough to be driving this car, and there are a lot who aren't, but when it comes down to it whoever the lucky bastards are that get one are gonna be going fast, otherwise you wouldn't have bought one. All any of us can do is hope that everyone will realize what the car can do and use it in a responsible and safe manner.
...but that's just my opinion.
Guest
Posts: n/a
HunterKiller,
No if you are buying your own car, I think you will take better care of it and be more cautious, so this doesnt apply to you.
And I dont have a job during school, so it can be tough. Thank god for grants and scholarships! But a Job earning a lttle cash on the side would really help. Think I will probably work next semester!
No if you are buying your own car, I think you will take better care of it and be more cautious, so this doesnt apply to you.
And I dont have a job during school, so it can be tough. Thank god for grants and scholarships! But a Job earning a lttle cash on the side would really help. Think I will probably work next semester!
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally posted by Monkeycb
I would just like to say that I am 18, have payed for every car I have ever owned(only 2, but still...), am leaving for the Navy next month and plan on buying a STi next summer (2004).
I know I can do stupid things on the road, but I also know that I am a very responsible driver when it comes down to it. I also agree with loudsubbie, If you are the one paying the insurance and the payments for the car your gonna be a whole lot more careful in it then if it was just given to you. It's just how people think.
I also believe that this would be a terrible car for someone just learning to drive. Every kid I have ever known has gone through the phase when he/she first gets their liscense and has to be the fastest one on the highway, and we've all calmed down, but it does take time, and unfortunately, some close calls. There are a lot of younger people who are skillful and careful enough to be driving this car, and there are a lot who aren't, but when it comes down to it whoever the lucky bastards are that get one are gonna be going fast, otherwise you wouldn't have bought one. All any of us can do is hope that everyone will realize what the car can do and use it in a responsible and safe manner.
...but that's just my opinion.
I would just like to say that I am 18, have payed for every car I have ever owned(only 2, but still...), am leaving for the Navy next month and plan on buying a STi next summer (2004).
I know I can do stupid things on the road, but I also know that I am a very responsible driver when it comes down to it. I also agree with loudsubbie, If you are the one paying the insurance and the payments for the car your gonna be a whole lot more careful in it then if it was just given to you. It's just how people think.
I also believe that this would be a terrible car for someone just learning to drive. Every kid I have ever known has gone through the phase when he/she first gets their liscense and has to be the fastest one on the highway, and we've all calmed down, but it does take time, and unfortunately, some close calls. There are a lot of younger people who are skillful and careful enough to be driving this car, and there are a lot who aren't, but when it comes down to it whoever the lucky bastards are that get one are gonna be going fast, otherwise you wouldn't have bought one. All any of us can do is hope that everyone will realize what the car can do and use it in a responsible and safe manner.
...but that's just my opinion.
Very well put monkeycb,
The younger you are, the faster you will drive. The younger you
are the faster you will want to race anyone who puts you out of your comfort zone. The STI should be driven by someone who
respects speed, when asked of it, and has the respect to drive it
like a pimp no matter what euroed out honda is asking for it
beside you. When you reach this level of maturity then you
will save yourself many tickets and most important your life.
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 92
From: Santa Rosa, CA
Car Info: 2004 WRX STi
I'm not with the your too young group. To me it's up to the individuals. But there can be some stereotypes made about certain groups. The reason for the stereotypes is because there is some truth to it. But like many things, there is the exception to the rule.
For the "better die trying" guy. I just hope you don't kill anybody else while you're trying to die. Think about that family of 4 or the ped that may become incidental in your machisamo. If not then think about yourself. I know of no people that want to die. With the invincibility of youth on your side, you are probably unlikely to hear what I have to say. So can you tell me what roads you cruise? I'll stay away.
For the "better die trying" guy. I just hope you don't kill anybody else while you're trying to die. Think about that family of 4 or the ped that may become incidental in your machisamo. If not then think about yourself. I know of no people that want to die. With the invincibility of youth on your side, you are probably unlikely to hear what I have to say. So can you tell me what roads you cruise? I'll stay away.
Guest
Posts: n/a
from a post on page 8
Originally posted by gordy
my final thoughts: "kids" (anyone under 21 or with less than 5 years driving experience) shouldn't be allowed on the freeway with anything faster than a VW bus or anything worth more than $5000 - since statistically I'm the one paying for it when you crash it.
call me a jerk, but this is a subject that really pisses me off.. after all if it wasn't for all the spoiled kids and their hot cars I wouldn't be shelling out $300 a month for insurance.
my final thoughts: "kids" (anyone under 21 or with less than 5 years driving experience) shouldn't be allowed on the freeway with anything faster than a VW bus or anything worth more than $5000 - since statistically I'm the one paying for it when you crash it.
call me a jerk, but this is a subject that really pisses me off.. after all if it wasn't for all the spoiled kids and their hot cars I wouldn't be shelling out $300 a month for insurance.
First of all, I am by no means spoiled. Single parent home making ends meet, etc... I've had to crunch cash, and I know how it is to budget. I'm saving to get my WRX and it will be a grand day when I get it. But comments like that with kids under 21 shouldn't be allowed to drive on the freeway with anything faster than a eurovan is purly ignorant.
I myself do much driving, more than usual for a person in my age group. I do driving for my uncles Aeration company, Truck and Trailer down I-55, 355 you name it. And I do drive a car that's under 1000 dollars now. But I also think that we should be able to drive something better than 5 grand if we either work for it. or afford it.
Right now I'm working and spending money on more prioritised things than a car.
Do I like seeing kids pull up to school in Benz's and Beemers in the morning, no. STi maybe extreme for a college person yes, but if you can afford it more power to you. Just dont be an idiot.
I dont think that this is an issue of what type of car you can drive, but rather how will you be driving it.
All the adults I seem to speak with say that you should have some experience under your belt before going at a 30grand car or anything else for that matter. yes this is true, but to limit it under the broad specturum that everyone is a spoiled kid who owns a nice car isn't right.
This is just rediculus because this type of thread will never come to a compromise.
Kids in general, yes, lack experience, but that is also a generalization.
Guest
Posts: n/a
one more note
One last thing, driving a car like I stated previously is like holding a loaded gun or any other type of lethal weapon.
My age group is going to have to factions. The ones that take driving seriously, and the ones that don't care.
Just like anything else in life.
Me personally take pride in abiding by the rules of the road.
I gained a speeding ticket very early on in my driving experience and that taught me a valuble lesson that when you break the rules you should be punished. I paid my ticket and learned from the experience.
Does this mean that I don't get a rush when I downshift on the highway to pass a truck, no. But I still have the sense to do what is right during certian situations.
I can only speak for a group of teens that drive sensibly, but when my day comes to drive the WRX, I will remember the things that I learned as a novice driver and apply them accordingly.
My age group is going to have to factions. The ones that take driving seriously, and the ones that don't care.
Just like anything else in life.
Me personally take pride in abiding by the rules of the road.
I gained a speeding ticket very early on in my driving experience and that taught me a valuble lesson that when you break the rules you should be punished. I paid my ticket and learned from the experience.
Does this mean that I don't get a rush when I downshift on the highway to pass a truck, no. But I still have the sense to do what is right during certian situations.
I can only speak for a group of teens that drive sensibly, but when my day comes to drive the WRX, I will remember the things that I learned as a novice driver and apply them accordingly.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Im 18 and I just purchased a new 2003 WRX with my own dime. I am very proud of the fact that I have enough credit at only 18 to take out a loan with out a cosigner and as far as the young kids handling high powered cars go I agree fully with all of you I am a Skip Barber team driver and if i didn't have copious amounts of training I would of killed myself in the first few seconds that I owned this car. I see my friends with souped up hondas and all kinds of ricers and its scary to see them drive those they are constantly doing burn outs and speeding out of the school parking lot almost out of control. Unless teens have professional training it is unsafe for them to drive high performance cars.
Guest
Posts: n/a
I am 18
I am 18 and if i get a STi i will be going slower than my current car a CAMARO!!!
1998 SS M6
Hooker LTs, Off Road Y-pipe, Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel, Spec Stage 3, LS1-Edit, Ls1 Motorsports Lid, Slp Maf, Intake Bellow, LS6 manifold, TB Bypass, 160 Thermo, Poly Trans Mount, Pro 5.0 Short Throw,Lous Short Stick, Loudmouth Exhaust,BMR Strut Tower Bar, BMR Tubular SFCs, BMR DS Loop
"I Just Hope To Be Faster Than All Those Donkeys"
My SS
1998 SS M6
Hooker LTs, Off Road Y-pipe, Fidanza Aluminium Flywheel, Spec Stage 3, LS1-Edit, Ls1 Motorsports Lid, Slp Maf, Intake Bellow, LS6 manifold, TB Bypass, 160 Thermo, Poly Trans Mount, Pro 5.0 Short Throw,Lous Short Stick, Loudmouth Exhaust,BMR Strut Tower Bar, BMR Tubular SFCs, BMR DS Loop
"I Just Hope To Be Faster Than All Those Donkeys"
My SS
Originally posted by walzerm
Im 18 and I just purchased a new 2003 WRX with my own dime. I am very proud of the fact that I have enough credit at only 18 to take out a loan with out a cosigner and as far as the young kids handling high powered cars go I agree fully with all of you I am a Skip Barber team driver and if i didn't have copious amounts of training I would of killed myself in the first few seconds that I owned this car. I see my friends with souped up hondas and all kinds of ricers and its scary to see them drive those they are constantly doing burn outs and speeding out of the school parking lot almost out of control. Unless teens have professional training it is unsafe for them to drive high performance cars.
Im 18 and I just purchased a new 2003 WRX with my own dime. I am very proud of the fact that I have enough credit at only 18 to take out a loan with out a cosigner and as far as the young kids handling high powered cars go I agree fully with all of you I am a Skip Barber team driver and if i didn't have copious amounts of training I would of killed myself in the first few seconds that I owned this car. I see my friends with souped up hondas and all kinds of ricers and its scary to see them drive those they are constantly doing burn outs and speeding out of the school parking lot almost out of control. Unless teens have professional training it is unsafe for them to drive high performance cars.
i would say that that's more an issue of immaturity rather than knowledge. there are some that have just toooo much pride. and that would be the very issue with the STi. see, that's the thought behind most teenagers, is that they want to be cool, where as most adults have the maturity to know that there's a time and a place. i think that sums up the point. racing on the street isn't very smart, on the track is a bit more sensible. my WRX is a point A to point B car on the street, but on the track, it's a different story.
Last edited by clamdip; Feb 27, 2003 at 09:00 PM.