https://www.i-club.com/forums/hawaii-43/those-who-have-forced-performance-turbos-please-read-important-170280/
here is another link that follows this whole ordeal. amber from fp is responding to this. she denies it too.

 

+1 for element tuning turbo

 

Guys,

I hope some of you can see thru the fog of slander and defamation that Brian Smothers is slinging against FP. He is motivated soley by his hatred for FP, not some sort of do-gooder, kind samaritan love for the common man origin. He tried selling turbos that were made in Tiawan and they mostly all failed for obvious reasons, just like Brian admits.

For some reason Brian cannot accept the fact that FP actually builds our own turbos, and have for over a decade. That decade has given us more experience in Mitsu based Hybrids than anyone else. Momentums turbos did not fail because they were made up of poor castings, they failed because of poorly made precision rotating parts inside the turbocharger. These precision parts MUST be correct, and not cheap knock offs - this is why we exclusively use MHI bearings and repair kits to build all our turbochargers.

These Tiawanese castings only allow us to reduce our prices and offer you a better product for less money, and that is something everyone is looking for. There are no problems or defects in these castings. Factories in Asia have been making high quality castings for decades, and there is nothing wrong with sourcing aftermarket parts from Tiawan. In fact it allows improvements that would be too expensive to make otherwise.

MHI would not consider making a new part for even FP, even though we were the largest distributor of MHI turbos in 2006 and likely again for 2007, they are just too busy. Sourcing the castings we want out of Tiawan is the perfect solution for obtaining castings that are made the way we want out of the material we want in the quantities we want. And this fact in no way degrades the quality of our turbochargers.

This entire slander campaign is simply due to Brian Smothers needs for revenge and an expression of his feeling that if he can't succeed in turbos then FP damn sure won't either. What he missed in his poorly conceived plan was our tremendous databank of experience regarding what we do best, build the best Mitsu-Garrett Hybrid turbos in the world.

Boost On!
Robert Young

 

damn! had i knew about this fp issue, i would not have bought a 16g with the evoIII wheel.

Not to worry, all our turbos are built either with our Billet comrpessor wheels, which we make BTW - not buy from Tiawan, or genuie Garrett or MHI wheels.

We do not use the exploding Tiawanese "white" wheels. Your E316g turbo has a Genuine MHI compressor in it.

Boost On!
Robert

 

Yo Robert, it's spelled "Taiwan", not "Tiawan"!!

 

hm...well as long as I get a quality turbo than im happy =)

 

so did u end up getting a quality turbo?

haven't heard of any updates from you

 

I dont get what the deal is with all you guys bashing on the Taiwan parts. Taiwan has some of the most advanced factories in the world because they dont have the giant cost of labor they can afford to buy the very expencive toolings and other equiptment that is normaly second hand in the US. For instance is you look at the quality of a titek, Kakumei or GT spec exhaust you can clearly see the diference of them and the Prodrive and hks exhausts. When you have a chance please look at a prodrive exhaust and then checkout a Kakumei or titek and so on. you can tell the time and money that is put into these parts and even though they can be less expencive at times the quality is still waybeter. just about all of the aftermarket parts made for your cars are make in taiwan even if you have a dimestic car (ford chevey dodge so on). like all the step bars on the trucks and grills. most of these quality parts are made in Taiwan. I know that most of us just think that all the asian parts are crap but it realy is just a mith. they are just like every other country there are good companys and there are bad.

and just for a little peace of mind there is a company that I work with that makes exhaust for the DB9 that sells for 5,500 bucks. I dont like linking to ebay because it normaly shows ripoff parts and lowprices that are very deciving but this is just to show what I am talking about
edit That company is out of taiwan

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aston...spagenameZWDVW

 

sweet all i need is the austin martin to go with it haha

 

WOW! another thread about a fp turbo going out. i thought taiwan turbo was just blowing smoke, but this is like the 6th thread about fp on the forums i've been on.

 

yeah notice that once one thread is closed a new one bashing FP is started. I dont know but even if a comp did make things over seas who gives a flying ****. I mean realy we all buy cars that have half there parts made there anyway. And if FP is willing to replace any defect part that tells me they are very comfident in there quality. Nobody wants to sell crap. exept maby APC

 

its just kinda disturbing that a quality company like forced performance, and their rep is being compromised by all these turbo's goin out....i mean really, it happens once, ok, twice, wellllll, ok, but 5+ times? hmmmmmm

glad i bought from someone else, and hope turbochargers.com doesnt have a history of blown turbos

 

sorry for the late update but i did get my 18g rebuilt free of charge and my warranty was honored. there was a lubrication problem that was out of my control.

 

good to hear. how long did the whole process take?