Bolt on 18G anyone?
06-13-2003, 10:41 AM
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Bolt on 18G anyone?
I just ordered my Bolt on 18G from Forced Performance. 819.00 shipped. The turbo is a bolt-on for the WRX. The turbine housing is a Subaru style Mitsubishi 8cm housing (Lots of flow). The turbine wheel is a TD05H.
The compressor side has an 18g wheel in a TD06 Compressor cover with a 2 1/4 in inlet. The center section is a dry housing other than oil feed and return.
The turbo is supposed to be a direct bolt-on minus the recirc of the coolant feed and return. Compressor maps show a 600 cfm flow @ 25psi. It should be here on tuesday, I will post pics when I get it.
Chris
The compressor side has an 18g wheel in a TD06 Compressor cover with a 2 1/4 in inlet. The center section is a dry housing other than oil feed and return.
The turbo is supposed to be a direct bolt-on minus the recirc of the coolant feed and return. Compressor maps show a 600 cfm flow @ 25psi. It should be here on tuesday, I will post pics when I get it.
Chris
06-14-2003, 07:51 PM
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there's a dude that goes by amelnikov on here who i think put a 16G in a stock housing and it sounded pretty awesome.
also, that dry center section's gotta be pretty hard on lag. and it must also get pretty hot. can you explain what lubricates and cools the bearings and what type of bearing is used? i've never heard of a turbo for our cars that doesn't use either oil or coolant, so i'm a bit confused as to how such a thing is possible.
also, that dry center section's gotta be pretty hard on lag. and it must also get pretty hot. can you explain what lubricates and cools the bearings and what type of bearing is used? i've never heard of a turbo for our cars that doesn't use either oil or coolant, so i'm a bit confused as to how such a thing is possible.
06-14-2003, 09:39 PM
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and this is a mitsubishi turbo? my brain is failing me right now but the td04L on our cars is a mitsu turbo, no? man i must've forgotten to take my smart pills or something.
so can anybody answer my questions about the dry center sections? i would imagine that the tradeoff would be cheaper for slower spool? how much are you guys paying for these 18Gs?
so can anybody answer my questions about the dry center sections? i would imagine that the tradeoff would be cheaper for slower spool? how much are you guys paying for these 18Gs?
06-14-2003, 10:24 PM
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Yes, it's a mitsu turbo. TD05H-18g to be exact. It flows roughly 600cfm at 25psi and should make as much power (if not more) than a pe1820 from what I've been told.
I paid $799.00 plus shipping. www.forcedperformance.com
I paid $799.00 plus shipping. www.forcedperformance.com
06-15-2003, 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Steppin Razor
and this is a mitsubishi turbo? my brain is failing me right now but the td04L on our cars is a mitsu turbo, no? man i must've forgotten to take my smart pills or something.
so can anybody answer my questions about the dry center sections? i would imagine that the tradeoff would be cheaper for slower spool? how much are you guys paying for these 18Gs?
and this is a mitsubishi turbo? my brain is failing me right now but the td04L on our cars is a mitsu turbo, no? man i must've forgotten to take my smart pills or something.
so can anybody answer my questions about the dry center sections? i would imagine that the tradeoff would be cheaper for slower spool? how much are you guys paying for these 18Gs?
The 18G model will be the small one, followed by 20G and hybrid models. As of this point we will not be offering 16G and smaller models.
There are a bunch of advantages to using the Mitsubishi TD05 based unit vs. the IHI- Rebuildable, upgradeable, long history of knowing what works well and what doesn't, a custom thrust bearing that is known to work well for the larger thrust loads on the high output models, etc.
The IHI models have so far been a big disappointment.
It is a bolt on with two very minor modifications- looping the coolant hoses with a 1/2" coupler, and using the provided 10mm x 1.25 oil feed banjo bolt.
06-15-2003, 05:00 PM
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well, mister grocerymax, what i wrote was actually not a statement, but rather a question. hence the QUESTION MARK.
you state that you need to loop the coolant hose and use a banjo bolt for the oil. so does that mean that the center section does use an oil feed?
you state that you need to loop the coolant hose and use a banjo bolt for the oil. so does that mean that the center section does use an oil feed?
06-15-2003, 05:56 PM
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so dry doesn't really mean dry. there is oil running through the turbo, just no coolant.
silverscooby, how does the car feel with the new turbo? have you already upgraded your fuel system? when you get it tuned, please be sure to post dyno graphs, we are all very interested.
silverscooby, how does the car feel with the new turbo? have you already upgraded your fuel system? when you get it tuned, please be sure to post dyno graphs, we are all very interested.
07-27-2003, 04:48 PM
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I didnt want to make a new post, but, I dont see any information on their webpage about the 18g. Did they stop selling them ?
I didnt want to make a new post, but, I dont see any information on their webpage about the 18g. Did they stop selling them ?
07-27-2003, 05:46 PM
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To set the record straight:
The big 16G wheel, which I had on my eclipse, will fit into our stock TDO4 housing if ported, but it's designed to fit into a TD05 off of an Eclipse, Talon, or Galant VR4. It's the #1 upgrade of any DSM, capable of producing around 350hp. It flows around 36p/hr. 18g around 39 20g is 44p/hr.
If you're interested in doing this swap, the cheapest way that we usually do it is:
Buy a new 16g wheel= $150
Buy a blown 14B turbo with a TD05 housing in good condition=$50
Balancing, replacement of bearing=$200
The 18g wheel and the "little killer" 20g wheel will both also fit into a TD05 housing
the big 20g will need a td06 housing.
The big 16G wheel, which I had on my eclipse, will fit into our stock TDO4 housing if ported, but it's designed to fit into a TD05 off of an Eclipse, Talon, or Galant VR4. It's the #1 upgrade of any DSM, capable of producing around 350hp. It flows around 36p/hr. 18g around 39 20g is 44p/hr.
If you're interested in doing this swap, the cheapest way that we usually do it is:
Buy a new 16g wheel= $150
Buy a blown 14B turbo with a TD05 housing in good condition=$50
Balancing, replacement of bearing=$200
The 18g wheel and the "little killer" 20g wheel will both also fit into a TD05 housing
the big 20g will need a td06 housing.
07-29-2003, 05:31 PM
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here is everything you need to know about the forced performance 18g and 20g.
20g thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=397660
18g thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=398666
20g thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=397660
18g thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=398666
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