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Old May 26, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Sevielle
I have a question about these. There are ads at ebay selling rear "STI strut bars" for around $60.

Are these the same as "sway bars"? Is the install reasonably straightforward? Are these reasonable investments if you'd like to breeze effortlessly through corners on the way to the mountains but you're not into racing?
No, strut braces bolt on top of the sturt mounts, to keep them the exact distance apart (more or less) when you are cornering. Sway bars go underneath the car, and twist when the body rolls, to stiffen it up without using harsh springs. If you have a wagon, it's not a bad investment. $60 would be a replica STi bar though, not a true one. Still not bad.
Old May 27, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by scoobin
I got the invidia downpipe and am VERY impressed with the quality and the beauty. Nice polished stainless. It was rated one of the best. Another good one is the Perrin downpipe. http://www.perrinperformance.com/ The turbo back and up pipe should do a lot for you. I wouldn't do to much more than that without upgradng the ecu (like bumping up the boost)... or else you can cause the engine to go lean blow the (@$%& out of it.
Very true, once you get that engine breathing, you need some good management.
Old May 28, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by scoobin
Go ahead and do all the exhaust mods, you shouldn't have any trouble. If you mess with the ECU and the subaru dealer finds out it will automaticly void your warranty. It looks like the Cobb is a reformatting of the stock ECU so if you have a backup go for it. An electronic boost controller might help you out a lot by keeping the boost from jumping all over the place (I would recomend the blitz SBC over all others) but be careful... Don't go above the stock 15 lbs of boost. I've heard stories of people blowing up their motor while running their car thru fourth because that is when you are pulling the most boost for the longest period. anyting more than that definatly upgrade the ECU. But if you are going to spend the money, The Link will be the best bet if you can find a tuner to help you dial it in. This way you can upgrade the turbo and have someone local dial it in.... oops, you blew it up??? The Subaru dealer will be more likely to look the other way if you have the stock ECU back in place. As for a sway bar... Perrin is making some nicely engineered suspension parts.
Your technical points are correct, but a word of advice- once you start making real power with engine management, forget about your warranty. It's gone. If you want 300+ factory backed horses, get a Camaro.
Old May 29, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sevielle
Ouch

Lemme try to get this straight. If I go to Cobb and talk them into a Stage 2 (91) reflash given only exhaust mods (not counting swaybars, wheels and other non-power-related mods), and then my car busts apart, at least remotely possibly related to overambitious engine management, SoA will automatically declare the warranty null & void because of the ECU adjustments?

Maybe this is a better way to ask what I need to know. Is there likely to be a difference between going with a pre-programmed "Stage X" power management scheme from a respected vendor vs. custom-tuning, either in terms of likely real-world safety from incidents or safety as perceived by SoA's warranty dept? My inclination is to be conservative- I most likely will never be micro-managing my ECU on the fly, but I could see a standardized reflash of the ECU up to Stage 2 from Cobb or others.
It depends. If you get a reflash or programmable added, and you hole a piston or strip a gear- no dice. But, if a seal leaks, or you start burning coolant, you'll probably be ok.
Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:44 AM
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I believe you should focus on suspension mods first (more mods if you're auto-xing or what have you) then brakes. (that's next on my to do list) because you need stopping power for the final set of mods.... and that's the engine.
Old Jun 3, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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Struts and springs would still be a good idea, but your setups is pretty good so far.
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