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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
LMAO , thats too funny!!!
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Originally Posted by SSFWRX
You guys just don't get it.
If liquid explosives are such a threat, how about you inspect peoples water/deodorant? How the obvious stuff lke arming pilots and locking cockpit doors?
Maybe we should just make flying illegal?
So let me get this straight... These restrictions only apply to people leaving from Heathrow and then only on JAL? Wow.. That highlights the stupidity. If you leave from Gatwick, you are OK. If they did the same things everywhere - then... It might make some sense.
So let me get this straight... These restrictions only apply to people leaving from Heathrow and then only on JAL? Wow.. That highlights the stupidity. If you leave from Gatwick, you are OK. If they did the same things everywhere - then... It might make some sense.
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Profiling won't work either, make a better rule, and they make a better criminal. Last time I came from the UK (last month) I was looking like hell and wearing a hoodie and a beanie. My friend was dressed in a nice button up shirt and had just shaved. They pulled me instantly, and let him go through. The security guard was a very young 'Doogie Hauser' sort of guy and he said MANY things that were just plain out of line and stupid. Since I knew I was clean, I went along with everything he asked (searching both bags, going through everything). I noticed several areas he didn't search, and gathered that based on my looks, he expected to find an ounce of cheeba in my bag or something. He made comments along these lines repeatedly. Simply based on my looks.
What did I learn from this? Take the time to spruce up a little before walking through security. It was entertaining to say the least, and fun when I got to call him on every stupid comment he made. He started with "as long as you don't have any goodies for me, this should be pretty quick."
What did I learn from this? Take the time to spruce up a little before walking through security. It was entertaining to say the least, and fun when I got to call him on every stupid comment he made. He started with "as long as you don't have any goodies for me, this should be pretty quick."
i can see it now - buy your favorite trial sized deodorant stick on-board for $15 and let your fellow passengers breathe in comfort
next thing you know the airline concession stand will be open in the back of the plane with $25 popcorn and $10 bottled water
next thing you know the airline concession stand will be open in the back of the plane with $25 popcorn and $10 bottled water
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Originally Posted by BlingBlingBlue
No offense, dude, but this *reactive* behavior is completely insane. Not allowing people to stay hydrated on planes or bring basic hygeine products is even more unreasonable than taking away finger nail clippers and having everyone take off their shoes. All this accomplishes is a further weakening of the airline industry.
If liquid explosives are such a threat, how about you inspect peoples water/deodorant? How the obvious stuff lke arming pilots and locking cockpit doors?
If liquid explosives are such a threat, how about you inspect peoples water/deodorant? How the obvious stuff lke arming pilots and locking cockpit doors?
It's a knee jerk reaction, I agree. This will be the big craze and then in a couple months we will go back to worrying about shoes or hair clips or the bomb shoved in someones butt crack. This will fade with the breeze and be long forgotten. It's just the way our society operates. The military does the same thing and I'm sure many businesses do also.
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Originally Posted by BlingBlingBlue
No offense, dude, but this *reactive* behavior is completely insane. Not allowing people to stay hydrated on planes or bring basic hygeine products is even more unreasonable than taking away finger nail clippers and having everyone take off their shoes. All this accomplishes is a further weakening of the airline industry.
If liquid explosives are such a threat, how about you inspect peoples water/deodorant? How the obvious stuff lke arming pilots and locking cockpit doors?
If liquid explosives are such a threat, how about you inspect peoples water/deodorant? How the obvious stuff lke arming pilots and locking cockpit doors?
What does an liquid explosive agent smell or taste like? Are you going to test it for the guy next to you when they ask. I know I sure as hell wont. I think they should give out more drinks on the flight and then there are no issues. As far as personal hygeine items, put it in your check baggage and use it once you get off the plane.
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Originally Posted by laoba
next thing you know the airline concession stand will be open in the back of the plane with $25 popcorn and $10 bottled water
It's gonna be just like the movies, except you have to watch the same movie over and over while you are strapped to your seat.
Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Maybe we should just make flying illegal?
So let me get this straight... These restrictions only apply to people leaving from Heathrow and then only on JAL? Wow.. That highlights the stupidity. If you leave from Gatwick, you are OK. If they did the same things everywhere - then... It might make some sense.
So let me get this straight... These restrictions only apply to people leaving from Heathrow and then only on JAL? Wow.. That highlights the stupidity. If you leave from Gatwick, you are OK. If they did the same things everywhere - then... It might make some sense.
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So we cant bring our own stuff into the movies or a sporting event and its all good, but when it actually comes down to safety we all want to compain. Just drink the drinks from the little cart and watch the movie they show and relax. No matter what you do flying sucks so just suck it up a little and arrive alive.
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Originally Posted by Jakes02
hmm very interesting. I thought they had a lighter tone similar to the Egyptians. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by 06WRX4ME
So we cant bring our own stuff into the movies or a sporting event and its all good, but when it actually comes down to safety we all want to compain. Just drink the drinks from the little cart and watch the movie they show and relax. No matter what you do flying sucks so just suck it up a little and arrive alive.
NO, it's not OK that we get charged $7 for popcorn BUT I understand why it is that way. For the theater to buy a movie it costs a bazzillion dollars and they don't make money on the movie, only the things they sell. This is a problem- they shouldn't have to pay as much as they do for a movie.
As far as the bringing stuff on the plane aspect-It's an over reaction, If a put a knife in my butt and they find it will they start searching everyones a**hole??
Originally Posted by 06WRX4ME
So we cant bring our own stuff into the movies or a sporting event and its all good, but when it actually comes down to safety we all want to compain. Just drink the drinks from the little cart and watch the movie they show and relax. No matter what you do flying sucks so just suck it up a little and arrive alive.
That's funny.
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Originally Posted by SSFWRX
You guys just don't get it. I work security at SFO, and the ignorance of the US public is sickening. I can't get into details but lets just make a point of it that IED's can and will look like anything and it will be as intricate as the person who makes it wants it to be. A contact lens solution bottle full of liquid explosives is big enought to bring a plane down. Detonators are the size of a pen cap, some are merely light bulbs. Batteries can be anything from the common 9v to a polariod or cordless phone battery. The switch can be anything....literally anything...two wires touched together, a toggle, cell phone, or any timing device....**** even an altimeter that alarms when you reach a certain altitude, using the wire leads to the speaker as the switch.
Point is we can do so many things to screen these people...it only takes 4 people from 4 different locations each carrying one component, meet at the restroom passing off the parts. BAM assembled IED and 2 of the people only had to have a battery and some sort of switch. The other a bottle, and the last one a flash bulb detonator.
The idea is to do everything you can to make any potential person realize there plan may not work. Adding the doubt into their mind may be all it takes. Its not that they are scared of dying, yet scared of being caught....then the whole plot is a waste and exposed.
FYI....a light has never been a prohibited item. Lighter yes...and thats federal law....not a rule.
As a side not refer to internet searches for "project bojinka," as this is a repeat of it. We are told that if terrorists fail they will revise and replan. Adapting their ways to achieve success. The WTC is a prime example,.
Point is we can do so many things to screen these people...it only takes 4 people from 4 different locations each carrying one component, meet at the restroom passing off the parts. BAM assembled IED and 2 of the people only had to have a battery and some sort of switch. The other a bottle, and the last one a flash bulb detonator.
The idea is to do everything you can to make any potential person realize there plan may not work. Adding the doubt into their mind may be all it takes. Its not that they are scared of dying, yet scared of being caught....then the whole plot is a waste and exposed.
FYI....a light has never been a prohibited item. Lighter yes...and thats federal law....not a rule.
As a side not refer to internet searches for "project bojinka," as this is a repeat of it. We are told that if terrorists fail they will revise and replan. Adapting their ways to achieve success. The WTC is a prime example,.
YES it can be anything so why not put an effort toward figuring out WHY! there are people who do this, rather than sifting through haystacks of billions of possiblities.
If you reply to this I dont bother with any of the bull**** answers either "e.g. they hate our freedom" .... "they hate how rich we are " etc.