I think you guys are under estimating the strength of CARB. CARB is a model for the rest of the country with regard to implementation of NAAQ (National Ambient Air Quality) standards put in place to ensure compliance with the Clean Air Act. Believe it or not, CARB has done a LOT of good work to improve air quality in CA over the last 20+ years, and has strong public support despite increased smog regulations.

Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of their rules are misguided, but the results are indisputable. The amount of pollution produced by any of our modified vehicles pales in comparison to your average bro truck that pukes clowds of black smoke, or AN AIRPORT.

IMO there should be allowances for a number of exempted vehicles per year, but that is not likely to happen.

In short, CARB is not going anywhere, and air quality standards and laws are only going to get more stringent.

 

Unfortunately BAR has been talking about that going into effect for smog exempt OBD2 cars (first 7 years) for quite a while. It should be going into effect within the next 5 years.

 

Not if we work with industry groups to fight this tooth and nail.

 

ya not going to happen... like ever.
I used to work for CARB *gasp*
The Industry gets huge subsidies from federal and state funds. along with tax credits/breaks. so they have no reason to fight back.

 

x1000


They soon roll over then worry about loosing everything.

 

Good luck with that. Like I said unless theres a big time lawyer willing to put a few years of his time on these issues, nothing is going to change.

 

Yep, I moved to NV and that was that. These days, I just don't care enough about modifying a car to go through all that when I move back, I'll just buy a 500hp stock car (or a Prius if gas is still out of control) and call it a day.

 

In need of some help. Does anyone have an 06-07 OEM uppipe, downpipe and exhaust that I may borrow or buy?

 

Thank you for being a voice of reason and presenting a clear but unpopular view.

 

If they want to make money they should make a one time fee to modify a vehicle. Only requirement is sniffer at smog. Then they could get money from everyone that decided to mod instead of just people the give ref tickets to LOL If they did that it would be way more money coming in and people would run catted DP's which would in turn create less emissions overall.

 

Thanks. The public actually voices overwhelming support for clean air. Especially in San Joaquin and LA Air Basins. Anyone who has been around long enough remembers how bad smog used to be. Hell the Sacramento area used to be disgusting due to all of the rice fields burning constantly. CARB is the reason that does not happen anymore.

Believe me I have my own reservations about CARB, and the level of restriction they place on any activity that puts fine particulates into the air. Not just from someone who likes cars, but as someone who is attempting to restore the health of our National Forests through prescribed burning.

I was going to suggest this, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that it would be a hopeless mess.

 

Or even just an annual 'modified fee' when its time to pay DMV registration. I would gladly pay one or two hundred bucks per year to make my car legal in the laws eyes.

 

If the kit car guys can do it. It should be for all that want to pay the fee. Is the state discriminating ?

 

Due to the fact that CA was one of the first states to address the clean air bs, they are able to get waivers from the Federal Government to have more strict regulations than other states.

"Under the 1970 Clean Air Act, California may request waivers of federal standards to enact its own, stricter laws — a right granted because the state had its own pollution laws before the federal government's."

 

Exactly. Like I said, CARB is a model for the future of this Country's enforcement of the Clean Air Act.