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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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I use that thing daily but didnt know there was an area for vacuum lines. lol @ me. mind = blown
Its California. Nothing with you or me. The place sucks. Not sure how the car world still works in the state.
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxBRAH
I use that thing daily but didnt know there was an area for vacuum lines. lol @ me. mind = blown
That says that the Magnaflow 444084 is approved for my car, but there must be 2x in place. I wonder if that means an exhaust shop could fab me a downpipe, using these cats, that would be smog legal. Probably not a fun battle to fight. I know it used to be legal to replace a cat with an approved unit if your car has 50k or more miles and the stock unit has been deemed failed. Not sure if it still is.
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Wow, again I am really glad I live in NorCal and not Sac or the Bay Area
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
That says that the Magnaflow 444084 is approved for my car, but there must be 2x in place. I wonder if that means an exhaust shop could fab me a downpipe, using these cats, that would be smog legal. Probably not a fun battle to fight. I know it used to be legal to replace a cat with an approved unit if your car has 50k or more miles and the stock unit has been deemed failed. Not sure if it still is.
Cant fab a custom downpipe but you can use the EO D-193-96 cats (Magnaflow 444084) as a legal replacement for any of your cats.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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this is why I don't go to meets anymore.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxBRAH
Cant fab a custom downpipe but you can use the EO D-193-96 cats (Magnaflow 444084) as a legal replacement for any of your cats.
Such as the one in the downpipe, I assume, though possibly incorrectly.
Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wombatsauce
Such as the one in the downpipe, I assume, though possibly incorrectly.
Depends on your year and make. I was just using a 2000 Impreza as a platform but it lists it on the ARB website. For 05 it says i can replace all 3 cats with the magnaflow one but the number is different for it.
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Exhaust and PC is well up to the officer making the stop. I really do think that someone should push this issue and well take it up the chain of courts.
But its California. Cars are the next firearm.

They are using this loophole to catch street racers. If we just police our own and stop the stupid street racing. Maybe they might back off.
The idea here is to sue the departments so much, so offten, that they back off the so called "street racer" laws. Then we push harder, tell we have grounds to gut the CARB.

It really is the same thing as firearms, if we give them a inch they take a mile. The only way we are going to be left alone, is if the LEO's are afrade to pull us over for anything short of a felony.
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Originally Posted by Overbear
The idea here is to sue the departments so much, so offten, that they back off the so called "street racer" laws. Then we push harder, tell we have grounds to gut the CARB.

It really is the same thing as firearms, if we give them a inch they take a mile. The only way we are going to be left alone, is if the LEO's are afrade to pull us over for anything short of a felony.
I'm 100% with you on all of it. But someone needs a riced out car that is 100% stock under the hood. Then run that thru the courts.
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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I'm 100% with you on all of it. But someone needs a riced out car that is 100% stock under the hood. Then run that thru the courts.
Still won't do it. Honestly... nothing is going to stop it because there are so many officer's discretion laws in place and they make way too much money off of the tickets. The only way we'll make a dent in this is if California's wake up an insist that we get rid of all rear round full time lawmakers. They make way too much money and have way too cush of jobs so they do the best they can to justify them... by making bull**** laws constantly. Most of them don't go anywhere or do anything.

Take for example the one that got through a few years ago that actually does concern driver safety... you must have your head lights on (meaning your tail lights are on as well) anytime you must use your wipers due to weather.

HOw many cars do you see in crazy rain with no headlights... I'm yet to hear or see of someone getting popped for it. Whats worse... me driving 72 in a 65 in a modified (safer at speeds) car on a clear day with no traffic or someone going 65 in a 65 in the poring rain in a silver car with no lights on..

It's all about money. That's why there are so many damn CHP around these days. They just keep spitting them out while the county funded departments are having to make layoffs... you know... the ones that deal with crime.

Say each CHP writes 10 tickets a day. Say there are 10 of them in the county. That's 100 tickets a day. 100 tickets with an average price of say $275... that' 27,500 of income a day.

Now you have to decrease that by pay and by what it costs to run it through the courts and the chp/court staff NOT on the highway...

But there are over 7000 CHP officers in the state I believe....

So say 5500 a day are on duty times 10 tickets each that's 55,000 tickets a day. Times $275... that' what... $15million a DAY!

Why not write bull**** tickets.



The only way you'll stop the ref issues is by forcing more companies to run through the system and get carb legal parts. But why should they spend the money when we by stuff clearly labeled (off road use only). Not worth it for them.

People need to pull their heads out of their *** and realize that a modified vehicle doesn't necessarily mean an unsafe or gross polluting vehicle... I'd rather see a safety inspection put in to place... annually.
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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One ticket gets pushed thru the court and makes case law and problem fixed for everyone else.

Or you can move out of state. Which is what I do 3/4 of the year.

Oh and I think that if you pass the sniffer test. Who cares about what you have. Its only a cash grab and a way to stop street racing
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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The only way its going to work is if one of you is a big time lawyer and is willing to bombard a county/city with lawsuits. Otherwise forget about it. No amount of petitions or *****ing is going to get them to stop.

Its the same with BAR laws for the new upcoming smog check. It punishes smog techs for doing their job and in some cases will outright cost them their license and livelihood. Until they get hit with lawsuits, they wont change anything.
Old Apr 20, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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I'd rather see a safety inspection put in to place... annually.
SCREW THAT! I would rather see everyone go unlisenced and unregistered before I ever aproved of that annual inpspection crap. What I do with my car is no one elses biz but mine.

****ing socialist state is already to intrusive and you want to add MORE?
Old Apr 20, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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I could reset my car to stock under the hood and drive around. I am sure someone would pull me over. Hahah.. but I think that is too much work now.



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