so i got a state ref yesterday
04-16-2012, 05:52 PM
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A lot of these fines are a complete sham. You can be ref'd on an officers whim even if he doesn't know what the hell he's looking at. You then have to take the time off of work to get your car through the system. That's time. That's money. Plus the fees for the paperwork. Then you have to submit it and pay those fines and/or go to court to get them reduced. All of this costs time and money. Meanwhile you may or may not have been braking any laws.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. THis state is friggin bull****.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. THis state is friggin bull****.
ThIS!
04-16-2012, 06:13 PM
#49
a lot of these fines are a complete sham. You can be ref'd on an officers whim even if he doesn't know what the hell he's looking at. You then have to take the time off of work to get your car through the system. That's time. That's money. Plus the fees for the paperwork. Then you have to submit it and pay those fines and/or go to court to get them reduced. All of this costs time and money. Meanwhile you may or may not have been braking any laws.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. This state is friggin bull****.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. This state is friggin bull****.
04-16-2012, 06:19 PM
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Do guys just take everything the ref tells them as law without having them show where it says its "illegal"?
04-17-2012, 01:06 PM
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Dude.. I'm living that nightmare now. I have enough in my subaru to buy a ... well never mind. But it seems to run a few times a year. At this point it will out last everything I own unless I part it out soon. The lp640 runs better then my subaru and its cheaper to keep on the road.
But yes, I love having a worry free car and truck. Dont know how many times I have blazed by CHP in my truck or other cars and they dont even look up at you.
But yes, I love having a worry free car and truck. Dont know how many times I have blazed by CHP in my truck or other cars and they dont even look up at you.
Lame but Im still waiting for someone to post literature in regards of silicone hoses. Hell Id also be interested in reading the literature for these vacuum lines.
Do guys just take everything the ref tells them as law without having them show where it says its "illegal"?
Do guys just take everything the ref tells them as law without having them show where it says its "illegal"?
I moved to Reno back last Oct, and am moving back here. I had an appointment to go get my CA ID this morning and I cancelled it, and I just can't do it yet. Not sure what I am going to do at this point but I don't know that I can manage living here and keeping my NV info. I know some people do that, but not sure I can.
04-17-2012, 01:16 PM
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04-17-2012, 01:19 PM
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I am just getting my nightmare started. Now, it looks like my car will probably be sitting still until I feel inspired to trailer it around to shops to get a quote to return it to stock, which will of course never happen. I guess I will just have to bomb around in my beater Veyron until this is sorted.
There is not really literature to speak of. If there were it would not say anything more than to the effect of "OEM or CARB E.O. = pass, anything else = fail." It is purely a money-making scheme at this point and it's up to the aftermarket suppliers to put up for the exemption. The juice has to be worth the squeeze for them, so they are not going to do this for a small market. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with logic, or the fact that changing a tube does not really affect emissions or even further, when people's cars test clean but fail for visual. This really grinds my gears!
I moved to Reno back last Oct, and am moving back here. I had an appointment to go get my CA ID this morning and I cancelled it, and I just can't do it yet. Not sure what I am going to do at this point but I don't know that I can manage living here and keeping my NV info. I know some people do that, but not sure I can.
There is not really literature to speak of. If there were it would not say anything more than to the effect of "OEM or CARB E.O. = pass, anything else = fail." It is purely a money-making scheme at this point and it's up to the aftermarket suppliers to put up for the exemption. The juice has to be worth the squeeze for them, so they are not going to do this for a small market. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with logic, or the fact that changing a tube does not really affect emissions or even further, when people's cars test clean but fail for visual. This really grinds my gears!
I moved to Reno back last Oct, and am moving back here. I had an appointment to go get my CA ID this morning and I cancelled it, and I just can't do it yet. Not sure what I am going to do at this point but I don't know that I can manage living here and keeping my NV info. I know some people do that, but not sure I can.
I think the only time they really bust people is after a reported problem. Then they go crack down in a area. The best way to slow this crap down is the police our own. Make sure all the asshats are not ruining it for the rest of us.
04-17-2012, 01:19 PM
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A lot of these fines are a complete sham. You can be ref'd on an officers whim even if he doesn't know what the hell he's looking at. You then have to take the time off of work to get your car through the system. That's time. That's money. Plus the fees for the paperwork. Then you have to submit it and pay those fines and/or go to court to get them reduced. All of this costs time and money. Meanwhile you may or may not have been braking any laws.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. THis state is friggin bull****.
Meanwhile someone passes you with a 6 inch exhaust and no cats on their car and they don't get looked at. Or worse yet they're driving around with no lights on in the rain, or with no brake lights, or no brake pads squealing like crazy. THis state is friggin bull****.
Remember you do NOT have to open your hood for the officer, and unless he is a federal officer, you CAN lie to them (protected by law and court cases). Your answer is this..
Step out of your car, lock it, put the keys in your pocket and say "I am sorry officer but I do not condone to a search of my property or person at this time. Am I free to go?"
Unless he has PC (and a exaust mod is not PC), then he has no choice but to let you go. Otherwise its called a unlawful detainer and it can end up costing the city/county a buttload of money, and the cop his job.
Know your rights folks.
04-17-2012, 01:31 PM
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You have already been stopped. So they know you. So if the cop sees you in your car with a NV plate. He might get pissy with you and cause more B.S.
I think the only time they really bust people is after a reported problem. Then they go crack down in a area. The best way to slow this crap down is the police our own. Make sure all the asshats are not ruining it for the rest of us.
I think the only time they really bust people is after a reported problem. Then they go crack down in a area. The best way to slow this crap down is the police our own. Make sure all the asshats are not ruining it for the rest of us.
EDIT: what I am talking about with "starting my headache" is that I just picked up a WRX, w/ CA plates, from a friend that I have wanted for years, and there are some non-compliant items on it. I thought I had time to fix that, but I don't due to some unforeseen events.
04-17-2012, 01:31 PM
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That does not work with hood pops.. It works for everything else. CHP has it in law that they can inspect anything on the road at will. You will only make life worse if you refuse a hood pop. Now a ticket on the other hand you are correct.
04-17-2012, 01:35 PM
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No, I have not been stopped in CA in this car. Technically I still live in Nevada, with a NV address where I get mail, an NV license, NV plates and NV insurance so there is no problem until I get my CA ID. Then, if I get stopped with a CA ID in a car registered to me in NV, I will have a problem and what you say is potentially true.
EDIT: what I am talking about with "starting my headache" is that I just picked up a WRX, w/ CA plates, from a friend that I have wanted for years, and there are some non-compliant items on it. I thought I had time to fix that, but I don't due to some unforeseen events.
EDIT: what I am talking about with "starting my headache" is that I just picked up a WRX, w/ CA plates, from a friend that I have wanted for years, and there are some non-compliant items on it. I thought I had time to fix that, but I don't due to some unforeseen events.
They do them all the time in Martinez. I am sure in the south bay they do them too.
04-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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But its California. Cars are the next firearm.
They are using this loophole to catch street racers. If we just police our own and stop the stupid street racing. Maybe they might back off.
04-17-2012, 01:58 PM
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