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Originally Posted by KennyBooBear
Howso? lol
No matter how well prepared you are with traction, once you hit ice with a decent amount of speed over what is considered safe, traction aids will work to a certain extent, but not enough IMO.
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I mean, while safety is a priority, most drivers mindset is "i have 4wd or awd" so im safe. Even with this law, it would just push some to drive faster because in essence, these parts gives more traction.
No matter how well prepared you are with traction, once you hit ice with a decent amount of speed over what is considered safe, traction aids will work to a certain extent, but not enough IMO.
No matter how well prepared you are with traction, once you hit ice with a decent amount of speed over what is considered safe, traction aids will work to a certain extent, but not enough IMO.
Back in Colorado we have the annual Georgetown Ice Races on Georgetown Lake (small lake in a town about an hour and fifteen minutes into the Colorado front range from Denver). The first weekend is an open practice weekend for anyone with anything on tires, and let me say that the difference in traction attained by having chains on all 4 tires of an AWD/4WD vehicle as opposed to no traction aids at all is a night and day difference. You literally go from sliding in an uncontrollable manner at about 4-6mph to being able to take tight turns at 15-30mph.
Granted I realize a real world circumstance of suddenly losing traction is an entirely different story as it's less an issue of the aid and more an issue of the driver being able to think and react quickly enough to this occurring, but winter speed limits exist for a reason. If a driver chooses to ignore them then I merely consider that society weeding itself out. You can hardly blame the device for someone's blatant disregard for their own safety, let alone the safety of others.
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Originally Posted by KennyBooBear
I get where you're coming from, but to play Devil's advocate, have you ever driven on ice with chains?
Yea you Will gain traction from chains, but its still just an excuse "oh I've got this and this so im safer than you driving this fast." this is why you see lots of suvs on the side of the road.. LOL
Was supposed to go this weekend but with registration/smog and Xmas.. Not sure I wish to drain my account any further until early January. haha.
Sketchy! haha. Just have an AWD Subaru with you.
Sketchy! haha. Just have an AWD Subaru with you.
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That said, I'll be heading up tomorrow AM. My offer still stands to anyone heading up there. NWS has changed the watch to a Winter Storm warning calling for 1-3ft at altitudes below 7000ft and 3-5+ above 7000. Needless to say, it's gonna be an awesome weekend for powder and staying indoors.
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This law has been in effect for the last 2 years. The chances that you are asked if you have chains or cables is remote when driving a Subaru. And you can always say, yes they are in the back. It's not the chain control stops you have to worry about, it's the CHP stopping you cause you were a dumbass and got stuck in a ditch and then they'll want to see them.
Winter Storm Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
341 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...SNOW LIKELY IN THE SIERRA FRIDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND...
.A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL APPROACH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
AND WILL REMAIN STATIONARY THROUGH THE WEEKEND. A STRONG JET
MOVING AROUND THE BASE OF THE LOW WILL PICK UP DEEP PACIFIC
MOISTURE BRINGING PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW FRIDAY
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.
DANGEROUS WINTER CONDITIONS WILL IMPACT HOLIDAY TRAVEL AND OUTDOOR
ACTIVITIES. ACROSS THE SIERRA...PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG
WINDS COULD LEAD TO WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND LENGTHY TRAVEL DELAYS.
TRAVELERS NEED TO CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA
PASSES THIS WEEKEND.
CAZ072-NVZ002-210030-
/O.UPG.KREV.WS.A.0010.121221T1800Z-121224T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KREV.WS.W.0008.121221T1400Z-121224T1200Z/
GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...TRUCKEE...
INCLINE VILLAGE
341 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO 4 AM PST
MONDAY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND WINDS...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM
FRIDAY TO 4 AM PST MONDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN
EFFECT.
* TIMING: PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL OCCUR FRIDAY
MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.
* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS: OVER 2 FEET ABOVE 7000 FEET WITH 1 TO 2
FEET IN THE TAHOE BASIN.
* THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS WILL OCCUR ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY
89 WHERE UP TO 5 FEET IS POSSIBLE ABOVE 7000 FEET AND UP TO 3
FEET BELOW 7000 FEET.
* WINDS: SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH.
RIDGE GUSTS UP TO 100 MPH.
* IMPACTS: PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL LEAD TO
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND LENGTHY TRAVEL DELAYS. TRAVELERS NEED TO
CONSIDER A SECONDARY ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA PASSES THIS
WEEKEND. BACK COUNTRY ACTIVITIES ARE NOT ADVISED.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE RAPIDLY LATE FRIDAY AND EARLY
SATURDAY. TRAVEL IS DISCOURAGED OVER THE SIERRA PASSES THIS
WEEKEND. CARRY EXTRA FOOD...WATER AND CLOTHES IN YOUR CAR IF YOU
MUST TRAVEL. CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/RENO FOR UPDATES ON
THIS SITUATION.
&&
$$
Lake Wind Advisory
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
812 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
CAZ072-NVZ002-210000-
/O.CON.KREV.LW.Y.0077.000000T0000Z-121221T1400Z/
GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...INCLINE VILLAGE
812 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...LAKE WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM PST FRIDAY FOR
LAKE TAHOE...
A LAKE WIND ADVISORY FOR LAKE TAHOE REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM
PST FRIDAY.
* WINDS: SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH.
* WAVE HEIGHTS: 2 TO 4 FEET WITH THE HIGHEST WAVES FROM MID
LAKE TO NORTH AND EAST SHORES.
* SMALL BOATS WILL BE PRONE TO CAPSIZING AND SHOULD REMAIN OFF
LAKE WATERS UNTIL CONDITIONS IMPROVE.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/RENO OR LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER
RADIO FOR UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION.
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
341 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...SNOW LIKELY IN THE SIERRA FRIDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND...
.A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL APPROACH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
AND WILL REMAIN STATIONARY THROUGH THE WEEKEND. A STRONG JET
MOVING AROUND THE BASE OF THE LOW WILL PICK UP DEEP PACIFIC
MOISTURE BRINGING PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW FRIDAY
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.
DANGEROUS WINTER CONDITIONS WILL IMPACT HOLIDAY TRAVEL AND OUTDOOR
ACTIVITIES. ACROSS THE SIERRA...PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG
WINDS COULD LEAD TO WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND LENGTHY TRAVEL DELAYS.
TRAVELERS NEED TO CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA
PASSES THIS WEEKEND.
CAZ072-NVZ002-210030-
/O.UPG.KREV.WS.A.0010.121221T1800Z-121224T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KREV.WS.W.0008.121221T1400Z-121224T1200Z/
GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...TRUCKEE...
INCLINE VILLAGE
341 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO 4 AM PST
MONDAY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND WINDS...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM
FRIDAY TO 4 AM PST MONDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN
EFFECT.
* TIMING: PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL OCCUR FRIDAY
MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.
* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS: OVER 2 FEET ABOVE 7000 FEET WITH 1 TO 2
FEET IN THE TAHOE BASIN.
* THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS WILL OCCUR ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY
89 WHERE UP TO 5 FEET IS POSSIBLE ABOVE 7000 FEET AND UP TO 3
FEET BELOW 7000 FEET.
* WINDS: SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH.
RIDGE GUSTS UP TO 100 MPH.
* IMPACTS: PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL LEAD TO
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND LENGTHY TRAVEL DELAYS. TRAVELERS NEED TO
CONSIDER A SECONDARY ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA PASSES THIS
WEEKEND. BACK COUNTRY ACTIVITIES ARE NOT ADVISED.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE RAPIDLY LATE FRIDAY AND EARLY
SATURDAY. TRAVEL IS DISCOURAGED OVER THE SIERRA PASSES THIS
WEEKEND. CARRY EXTRA FOOD...WATER AND CLOTHES IN YOUR CAR IF YOU
MUST TRAVEL. CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/RENO FOR UPDATES ON
THIS SITUATION.
&&
$$
Lake Wind Advisory
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
812 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
CAZ072-NVZ002-210000-
/O.CON.KREV.LW.Y.0077.000000T0000Z-121221T1400Z/
GREATER LAKE TAHOE AREA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SOUTH LAKE TAHOE...INCLINE VILLAGE
812 AM PST THU DEC 20 2012
...LAKE WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM PST FRIDAY FOR
LAKE TAHOE...
A LAKE WIND ADVISORY FOR LAKE TAHOE REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM
PST FRIDAY.
* WINDS: SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH.
* WAVE HEIGHTS: 2 TO 4 FEET WITH THE HIGHEST WAVES FROM MID
LAKE TO NORTH AND EAST SHORES.
* SMALL BOATS WILL BE PRONE TO CAPSIZING AND SHOULD REMAIN OFF
LAKE WATERS UNTIL CONDITIONS IMPROVE.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/RENO OR LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER
RADIO FOR UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION.
Anyone know if the businesses (casino's, restaurants, etc) near Heavenly are open on the 25th?
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Originally Posted by bluwrxwgn
This law has been in effect for the last 2 years. The chances that you are asked if you have chains or cables is remote when driving a Subaru. And you can always say, yes they are in the back. It's not the chain control stops you have to worry about, it's the CHP stopping you cause you were a dumbass and got stuck in a ditch and then they'll want to see them.
going to sugarbowl on 22nd and mt rose on 23rd. hoping the storm won't be too much of a problem for higher mountain
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+1. don't know why ppl are so worried of not carrying chains for legal reasons. for safety that's a diff story. they will probably close the roads before awd cars have to put on chains. just tell em it's in the back and if u have a **** load of stuff in the back they won't bother. like blu said, if u r stupid enough to end up on the side and chp is there then mayb u r screwed lol.
going to sugarbowl on 22nd and mt rose on 23rd. hoping the storm won't be too much of a problem for higher mountain
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going to sugarbowl on 22nd and mt rose on 23rd. hoping the storm won't be too much of a problem for higher mountain
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i will be putting the snow tires on after work today and leaving with mt gf tomorrow at 5pm lets hope we make it haha!
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If you're headed to South Lake Tahoe definitely take 50 and not 88. I'll be taking 88 but it'll be during the day. The conditions are supposed to get pretty bad after night fall, especially at higher altitudes and 88 goes over Carson Pass. Needless to say, that'd be a **** turn to slide off of at 7pm in the middle of a blizzard haha