aboothman

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Yes, and it still is. But the comparison is between the EVO and STi, NOT the EVO and WRX.

The 5 speed EVO tranny is pretty stout, but the same cannot be said for the transfer case. The plus side is they are cheap to get built properly.

BruceLee: you are a traitor to Subaru, and your opinion counts for exactly zero. What a waste of a 10k word post LOL

brucelee

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Hahhahah, I agree, lets all remember that this is between the STi and the EVO, not the WRX and EVO.

I wish the EVO had the STi 6-Speed. I love my 6 speed sooooo much. I drove the paddle shift model too, and it sucked. I know it's dual clutch and blah blah, but without a clutch pedal you are so limited on what you can do with the car. No launching either (which I never really do anyway, but still).

sigma pi

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Yeah

Krinkov

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www.autoblog.com/2011/03/03/followup-mitsubishi-unconvincingly-addresses-evo-death-rumors-v/

ya funny how that didnt even try to deny it. Sounded more like,

"We're sorry this leaked before we could have our marketing department craft a well worded bull**** press release that would have tried to make it sound nicer."

LifePlaza

So will the next lancer be named: Lancer EV1?

brucelee

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Man, seeing that just sets this ****ty feeling in even more. I was sort of in denial but now that I keep seeing press releases I get more and more sad. Not just because the EVO is dying, but because I know the STi is next. Unless Subaru does something to increase the output of the STi without increasing the price, I don't see the STi continuing sales.... Just like how Subaru pulled out of the WRC, their focus is to make money, and the STi doesn't make them any real money. Like Krinkov said earlier, the numbers are so limited that it makes no big diff if Subaru sells every STi they make because they are still so limited and the profit margin is so low. With the price of gas and the economy steadily staying at a low, most people wont even consider buying an EVO or STi. E-85 is something that can turn this around, more power, cheaper gas = more sales. Imagine if the STi came with 375hp on E-85 from the factory and still cost around the same price. Think of how many people would buy it! Better for the world, cheaper to fuel, way more power = no brain required.


The salesmen told me to switch to E-85 as my first mod. He said that most of his EVO customers who are interested in racing and producing higher HP numbers all switch to E-85. I agree with him and it would probably be the first mod I'd do. I wish there were more E-85 stations and wish STi would come out with a higher output 2.5L tuned for E-85. I think 375 would be pretty easy to obtain and still be reliable and considered a low emissions car.


E-85 can make or break the STi. Lets hope Subaru is reading this!

LifePlaza

They have...FT86 RWD

Krinkov

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lol well thats not going to happen

But just an FYI, you can switch an STI over to E85 just as readily as an EVO you know?

brucelee

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yeah, I know. If I don't buy the EVO, I'll do the E-85 thing and get the car re-tuned (Even though some low life stole my Access Port, *cry* )

Steven@Coach

Crap, Seems I just pasted the text and not the link. From reading between the lines I think Mitsu is not going to kill the Evo line, but turn it into a hybrid sports car. They need a product that can stand out and get notice. Besides a few EvoXs on the road I almost never a see a new Mitsu car on the road.

aboothman

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Why does everyone focus on power output? While many people mod for power, the stock STi makes enough power for 90% of the dip**** owners to total the car. I think that they should focus on putting that power to the ground and improving turn in. A couple inexpensive mods DRASTICALLY improve the handling of the STi.

Group-N bushings, slightly bigger sway bars, and a stage 2 setup would make a quick, fast, and nimble car that would fufill the requirements of 95% of STi owners. And for those that do not know, there IS a difference between quick and fast

Krinkov

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Jacob pointed this out in the previous thread but was quickly drowned out in the ensuing rabble

SR20steve

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The STi isn't safe from this same cutting that Mistu is doing. If you think about it the evo and sti have both thrived and gotten better from competition. Whether it be from the WRC, or just competition for the market share, both cars would not be if they did not have each other. Now that the evo is gone, what is there to keep the STi a top performer??

I would not be surprised if the STi goes to the wayside as well....I mean STi is the rally division of Subaru...that in reality isn't even real anymore. But as my uncle told me "thats how hotrods are born, they tell us they won't make them anymore".

SR20steve

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBYDtdYwik

Krinkov

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this guy said the pretty much the same thing but I think hes full of ****