fahrenheit 9/11
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Originally Posted by Salty
I'll tell you when i download the torrent (at 13%).
It's not mainly based lies as i'm sure some of his points were based on fact. It's based on deception!
You think Moore's going to put the interviews that went sour in his film. No he isn't, because that would disprove his point(s) or lack thereof. You pull a ticket out of the hat once and the odds of pulling your number are slim to none. On the other hand, if you pull from the same hat numerous times, like Moore, the odds of getting what you want are greater.
After he got a collection of tickets with the number he wanted, Moore engineered an extremely biased film that cannot be categorized as lies. You see what i mean?
It's not mainly based lies as i'm sure some of his points were based on fact. It's based on deception!
You think Moore's going to put the interviews that went sour in his film. No he isn't, because that would disprove his point(s) or lack thereof. You pull a ticket out of the hat once and the odds of pulling your number are slim to none. On the other hand, if you pull from the same hat numerous times, like Moore, the odds of getting what you want are greater.
After he got a collection of tickets with the number he wanted, Moore engineered an extremely biased film that cannot be categorized as lies. You see what i mean?
no, not really. I wish people would respect the bold type that says "for people who have seen the movie", instead of running off at the finger tips with their version of lies. Sorry for sounding harsh.
The bottom line is we have a president we did not elect. THOUSANDS of people that did not want to participate in the war have died. I do not feel safer today then prior to Sept. 11. 2001.
There are images the press can not release; flag-drapped coffins coming home, burnt bodies, the devastion of war...
Anybody have family over seas fighting?
I do agree everyone should form their own opinion based on the truth. If we don't, it's the ignorant leading the blind.
Originally Posted by Rocket Man
The bottom line is we have a president we did not elect.
btw, i'm not a bush supporter/hater. i could care less.
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It scares me just how many of our Subie friends are "Right Wingers" with blinders on. It hurts me to see people sawing negitive things about anyone questioning the system.
The film was great. i was either crying or laughing in such disbelief at bush and his people that i was sickened.
I'm planning on seeing it again this week.
and i'm happy to see that those on the board i would call "friends" are of the same feeling as myself. You other people. don't bother ever talking to me. the brain washed machines.
The film was great. i was either crying or laughing in such disbelief at bush and his people that i was sickened.
I'm planning on seeing it again this week.
and i'm happy to see that those on the board i would call "friends" are of the same feeling as myself. You other people. don't bother ever talking to me. the brain washed machines.
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Originally Posted by soundwave
really? did you vote? last time i checked, we "voted" for who we wanted to.
btw, i'm not a bush supporter/hater. i could care less.
btw, i'm not a bush supporter/hater. i could care less.
he cheated his way into office and that's hard fact
Originally Posted by bushido
he cheated his way into office and that's hard fact

care to explain how he cheated his way into office? i honestly don't know what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Rocket Man
no, not really. I wish people would respect the bold type that says "for people who have seen the movie", instead of running off at the finger tips with their version of lies. Sorry for sounding harsh.
The bottom line is we have a president we did not elect. THOUSANDS of people that did not want to participate in the war have died. I do not feel safer today then prior to Sept. 11. 2001.
There are images the press can not release; flag-drapped coffins coming home, burnt bodies, the devastion of war...
Anybody have family over seas fighting?
I do agree everyone should form their own opinion based on the truth. If we don't, it's the ignorant leading the blind.
The bottom line is we have a president we did not elect. THOUSANDS of people that did not want to participate in the war have died. I do not feel safer today then prior to Sept. 11. 2001.
There are images the press can not release; flag-drapped coffins coming home, burnt bodies, the devastion of war...
Anybody have family over seas fighting?
I do agree everyone should form their own opinion based on the truth. If we don't, it's the ignorant leading the blind.
I'm so sick of the "baby boomer" wannabe's that make OEF and OIF out to be another Vietnam. Your chances of getting killed are greater if you go out to a Club on a friday evening! BTW, the release of photos as you mention has ALWAYS been against the law for the simple fact it's disrespectful. Two journalists got into serious trouble for this recently and NOBODY was laughing.
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I saw the film today and still hate Bush just as much or more than I did before. His presidency is such a joke, I can't believe all the corruption thats been going on just to keep things functioning. Now that CFR chart I got over a year ago is making more sense than it did when I examined it the first time.
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Originally Posted by mexicanpizza
So make sure you vote based on "emotions" and not "rational thought".
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want Kerry as the president. He's just promising the same thing the Democrats have promised year in and year out, social equity and protectionism. It's exactly the clientage society model the Democrats propose that will not allow me to vote for them. However, George W. Bush has implemented several domestic (eg. steel tarriffs) as well as foriegn policies (war w/ Iraq) that I feel are not of the best interest of the country. My first choice would be to replace George W. Bush with another Republican, but the chances of an incumbent President losing a party's nomination is next to impossible. So, I say keep him in office and let him fix some of the problems he started.
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Originally Posted by zumnwrx
a vote for nader is a vote for bush...
thank you
edgar,
thank you
edgar,

Just kidding about the hate thing.
Originally Posted by soundwave
no offense taken 
care to explain how he cheated his way into office? i honestly don't know what you're talking about.

care to explain how he cheated his way into office? i honestly don't know what you're talking about.
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IIRC, the US supreme court did not want to take on this case, which the florida supreme court had the final say.
so that's why the florida supreme court's decision became the final say-so in this matter.
blame florida for designing ambigous ballots. blame flordia voters who can read. blame the florida voters who cant punch a firggin ballot (remember all those pregnant chads???)
heck even blame the original framers of the constition when they wanted to have an electorate voting system instead of a popular voting system.
btw, dont forget to vote in november, otherwise STFU...
so that's why the florida supreme court's decision became the final say-so in this matter.
blame florida for designing ambigous ballots. blame flordia voters who can read. blame the florida voters who cant punch a firggin ballot (remember all those pregnant chads???)
heck even blame the original framers of the constition when they wanted to have an electorate voting system instead of a popular voting system.
btw, dont forget to vote in november, otherwise STFU...
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Omg, people still bring up Florida? LOL! 
The only thing I'll say about the "devastations of war" is that not one of our troops over there didn't know what he/she was getting into when they signed the dotted line. Whether they believe in what we're doing over there, they knew the risks of signing up. Also, no matter what your view on the war is, please, please, please, PLEASE support the troops. Not what they are doing, but them, the people. When I picked up a squad of troops from my old squadron from S.F. Airport back in Nov., some ******* yelled out "baby killers!" in the bagage claim area. If I ever heard of an i-Club member doing something like this, why, I think I'd hurt them

The only thing I'll say about the "devastations of war" is that not one of our troops over there didn't know what he/she was getting into when they signed the dotted line. Whether they believe in what we're doing over there, they knew the risks of signing up. Also, no matter what your view on the war is, please, please, please, PLEASE support the troops. Not what they are doing, but them, the people. When I picked up a squad of troops from my old squadron from S.F. Airport back in Nov., some ******* yelled out "baby killers!" in the bagage claim area. If I ever heard of an i-Club member doing something like this, why, I think I'd hurt them
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Omg, people still bring up Florida? LOL! 
The only thing I'll say about the "devastations of war" is that not one of our troops over there didn't know what he/she was getting into when they signed the dotted line. Whether they believe in what we're doing over there, they knew the risks of signing up. Also, no matter what your view on the war is, please, please, please, PLEASE support the troops. Not what they are doing, but them, the people. When I picked up a squad of troops from my old squadron from S.F. Airport back in Nov., some ******* yelled out "baby killers!" in the bagage claim area. If I ever heard of an i-Club member doing something like this, why, I think I'd hurt them

The only thing I'll say about the "devastations of war" is that not one of our troops over there didn't know what he/she was getting into when they signed the dotted line. Whether they believe in what we're doing over there, they knew the risks of signing up. Also, no matter what your view on the war is, please, please, please, PLEASE support the troops. Not what they are doing, but them, the people. When I picked up a squad of troops from my old squadron from S.F. Airport back in Nov., some ******* yelled out "baby killers!" in the bagage claim area. If I ever heard of an i-Club member doing something like this, why, I think I'd hurt them

i'm sure they wont take crap like that...
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