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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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No one knows what happened yet in detail.. so we are all just fishing...
This.
Its all really speculation at this point, he might have been fully justified so there's no reason to assume anytghing. Its just the sad truth that because of one complete fiasco, the BART police will always have a stigma over their action that no other bay area police agency will have when it comes to use of lethal force

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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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This country is loosing site on its foundations everyday.
BINGO! I reload my own shells/brass and fill them with the (safest) strong charge I want them to have. Needless to say, I'll have more bang for my buck when this left wing socialist (in progress anyway) country goes belly up.

In regards to the whole "guns kill people" bull**** that every left winger like to use. Do pencils misspell words? Do cars crash themselves? No, it doesn't work that way.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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...so how again is that second amendment protecting you from "Tyranny"?
2nd amendment has nothing to do with it as this is a not civilian shooter.
A LEO has to assume that if someone brandishes a weapon that they intend to use it.

Could the officer used a tazer? Maybe...
Is an officer authorized to use deadly force if threatened by a weapon: Absolutely.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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He's from berkley man. Of course he isn't going to understand the real world. F***in left wing theorists. Get bent hippies. Peace doesn't work with criminals!
+1billion, peace does not work with criminals...and I also like the statement that pencils don't misspell words and cars don't crash themselves hahaha...
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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shouldn't have been acting a fool and this stuff wont happen
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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If we all had these in our kitchens and less knifes...
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Maybe there would be less crime. California banned them. Yet there has never been a crime reported with someone using a bmg.

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I now reload my own stuff too. Much cheaper ...
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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+1billion, peace does not work with criminals...and I also like the statement that pencils don't misspell words and cars don't crash themselves hahaha...
Not even kidding, I had a poli sci class and we were debating about guns, 2nd amendment, etc etc, and the con group was up w/ there posters and yada yada... When look who it is?! Hippie mc full of **** starts shoving it in your face about how evil guns are and how they kill people. I just sat and laughed my *** off. Let him finish his shpeel and asked him. ME: So guns kill people? Him: Yes and you should see how evil they are blah blah blah! Me: So did your whiteboard marker spell that wrong (I point to the god awful misspellings on his poster. Him: Class:
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowend
2nd amendment has nothing to do with it as this is a not civilian shooter.
Apparently you did not read the sentence I quoted before this line-

my statement was in response to your line about "pull a gun on an officer and you die-" it really had nothing at all to do with this specific incident, so let me try to phrase it in a manner your primitive brain might understand: anyone who thinks they can fight tyranny with a handgun, rifle or assault weapon is going to be in for some real disappointment, because the tyrants will always have bigger firepower, get it?

and sure- call me a leftist Berkeley hippie whatever, I was shooting guns before most of you were born, and while I'm a bit out of practice, I'd still probably keep up with most of you active shooters at a round of trap or targets, but I don't think every crackpot nutcase deserves to have a gun, as evidenced in the news nearly every day, and I don't subscribe to the notion that wearing a badge automatically grants one the power of jury judge and executioner, we are supposed to be a country of laws and due process.

And if you think the UK is not the "real world" I'd suggest you are the one who needs to get out more...
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by old.guy

Maybe there would be less crime. California banned them. Yet there has never been a crime reported with someone using a bmg.
BMG! Big Muhfuggin GUN!
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Before you start calling people names, consider this:
Who said anything about tyranny... oh wait that was you... later.

This can nothing to do with gun control, no one is saying that a random passenger on BART should have shot the person themselves.
Gun control debates just don't apply to LEO related shootings.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Apparently you did not read the sentence I quoted before this line-

my statement was in response to your line about "pull a gun on an officer and you die-" it really had nothing at all to do with this specific incident, so let me try to phrase it in a manner your primitive brain might understand: anyone who thinks they can fight tyranny with a handgun, rifle or assault weapon is going to be in for some real disappointment, because the tyrants will always have bigger firepower, get it?

and sure- call me a leftist Berkeley hippie whatever, I was shooting guns before most of you were born, and while I'm a bit out of practice, I'd still probably keep up with most of you active shooters at a round of trap or targets, but I don't think every crackpot nutcase deserves to have a gun, as evidenced in the news nearly every day, and I don't subscribe to the notion that wearing a badge automatically grants one the power of jury judge and executioner, we are supposed to be a country of laws and due process.

And if you think the UK is not the "real world" I'd suggest you are the one who needs to get out more...
So lets ban the kitchen knife. Lots of x wifes use them to attack their poor defenseless husbands..

And clearly you do not under stand how this country was built. some dudes with muskets and some other dudes in red coats... I am not saying lets go over take the government. I am say that it was written on a piece of paper few years ago... its a building block for this country. Right to bear arms you might have heard about it?

The biggest problem in the world is not thinning the herd.. Why do we have to protect the stupid..
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Apparently you did not read the sentence I quoted before this line-

my statement was in response to your line about "pull a gun on an officer and you die-" it really had nothing at all to do with this specific incident, so let me try to phrase it in a manner your primitive brain might understand: anyone who thinks they can fight tyranny with a handgun, rifle or assault weapon is going to be in for some real disappointment, because the tyrants will always have bigger firepower, get it?

and sure- call me a leftist Berkeley hippie whatever, I was shooting guns before most of you were born, and while I'm a bit out of practice, I'd still probably keep up with most of you active shooters at a round of trap or targets, but I don't think every crackpot nutcase deserves to have a gun, as evidenced in the news nearly every day, and I don't subscribe to the notion that wearing a badge automatically grants one the power of jury judge and executioner, we are supposed to be a country of laws and due process.

And if you think the UK is not the "real world" I'd suggest you are the one who needs to get out more...
Ok, well with my primitive brain let me break it down for you kiddo. It seems like those across the atlantic would all be speaking german if not for OUR guns. Us primitive gun users in the military/peace officers/responsible civilians are the ones who have kept things in order. This fool died because a trained officer took action. It's easier to deal with criminals when they're dead. Then again this message won't get into your chai and goat cheese packed brain because you're too busy donating money to ACLU and wikileaks to wise up and see criminals for who they are, toxic wastes of oxygen.

If/when it all hits the fan your birkenstocks and fixie bikes won't do **** for you.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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Haha chai and goat cheese packed brain LOL
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Ok, well with my primitive brain let me break it down for you kiddo. It seems like those across the atlantic would all be speaking german if not for OUR guns. Us primitive gun users in the military/peace officers/responsible civilians are the ones who have kept things in order. This fool died because a trained officer took action. It's easier to deal with criminals when they're dead. Then again this message won't get into your chai and goat cheese packed brain because you're too busy donating money to ACLU and wikileaks to wise up and see criminals for who they are, toxic wastes of oxygen.

If/when it all hits the fan your birkenstocks and fixie bikes won't do **** for you.

lol


When are we going to start blaming the trouble markers and not the Cops or the guns. When are we going to hold the morons accountable for their actions?
Why didn't BART sue Oscar Grants parents for raising a trouble maker.. I mean if the Grants can use BART right... If Oscar had been like any other behaved person on BART.. Well we wouldnt be talking about him now would we.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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lol


When are we going to start blaming the trouble markers and not the Cops or the guns. When are we going to hold the morons accountable for their actions?
Why didn't BART sue Oscar Grants parents for raising a trouble maker.. I mean if the Grants can use BART right... If Oscar had been like any other behaved person on BART.. Well we wouldnt be talking about him now would we.
The sad reality is that self entitlement has replaced self accountability ten fold.



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