WTF is wrong with black people?
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Exactly the same?
No.
And they shouldn't.
No.
And they shouldn't.
Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
All Americans have the same opportunty to succeed.
Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Look, my friend, you really don't know dick about me.
A long time ago, I posted my entire back ground; I think I posted it after MVWRX questioned me in a similar, albeit, more polite manner.
Maybe Salty can dig it up.
A long time ago, I posted my entire back ground; I think I posted it after MVWRX questioned me in a similar, albeit, more polite manner.
Maybe Salty can dig it up.
Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Nowhere on your ****ing birth cert is there a box checked that states "You will have a fair life."
Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Life is a struggle and the strong will always win.
If you want something, ****ing work hard, ignore your distractors, and succeed.
So, are you strong or weak?
If you want something, ****ing work hard, ignore your distractors, and succeed.
So, are you strong or weak?
Im very strong but that doesn't change my point of view on how the weak should be treated or helped to do better. Seems you don't give a **** if someone is weaker than you.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Horse ****.
No one is forced is to get pregnant at the age of 14.
No one is forced to do drugs.
No one is forced to drop out of school.
No one is forced to fail.
No one is forced is to get pregnant at the age of 14.
No one is forced to do drugs.
No one is forced to drop out of school.
No one is forced to fail.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Horse ****.
No one is forced is to get pregnant at the age of 14.
No one is forced to do drugs.
No one is forced to drop out of school.
No one is forced to fail.
No one is forced is to get pregnant at the age of 14.
No one is forced to do drugs.
No one is forced to drop out of school.
No one is forced to fail.
No, but some are taught (through role-models and actions more than verbally or in school) that those things aren't as taboo or as detrimental to one's future. Furthermore, when the emphasis in a community is on immediate survival rather than EDUCATION (to prepare for the future), you can't expect people to have the same mentality that hard work and staying away from drugs and pregnancy and in school will make their lives better. You HAVE to admit that at the beginning of a human life, small children rely on others to setup their whole outlook on life. If their family and peers don't stear them towards having the mentality that you had to work hard and succeed, do we just say 'ok well f*** 'em'. I think that's absurdly selfish and arrogant myself.
I can tell someone will blame the parents; and yes, it's their fault. But that will never change until someone steps into the situation from outside (from the gov't) and sets the community building cycle up so that it can self-perpetuate a positive situation instead of self-perpetuating a horrible one.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Get off that high horse.
No one is promised a fair life
There's a difference between having something & the opportunity to have something.
Every person in America, illegals as well, have the same opportunity to succeed.
Does this mean that all of will succeed?
Unfortunately, no, some will fail.
That's life.
Originally Posted by Unregistered
I never said there was. But as a human being I can understand that I should help others out. In the end those actions help me more than help them. Not only that I believe no one deserves the short end of the stick because the situation they were born in. If we can change things for the better for them, then we should try. What is so wrong with that point of view?
Call it corny, but I used to be a Boy Scout, and I still manage t get at least one good deed/day.
Yes, it's unfortunate the some, for one reason or another, simply can't get their **** together and make right choices.
However, there's a big problem in forcing The Haves to help The Have Nots that simply want to continue to suck the tit of welfare.
If you want help, show me that you aren't gonna waste an opportunity presented to you.
Not every one that appears to need help wants it, or frankly, deserves it.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
No, but some are taught (through role-models and actions more than verbally or in school) that those things aren't as taboo or as detrimental to one's future. Furthermore, when the emphasis in a community is on immediate survival rather than EDUCATION (to prepare for the future), you can't expect people to have the same mentality that hard work and staying away from drugs and pregnancy and in school will make their lives better. You HAVE to admit that at the beginning of a human life, small children rely on others to setup their whole outlook on life. If their family and peers don't stear them towards having the mentality that you had to work hard and succeed, do we just say 'ok well f*** 'em'. I think that's absurdly selfish and arrogant myself.
I can tell someone will blame the parents; and yes, it's their fault. But that will never change until someone steps into the situation from outside (from the gov't) and sets the community building cycle up so that it can self-perpetuate a positive situation instead of self-perpetuating a horrible one.
I can tell someone will blame the parents; and yes, it's their fault. But that will never change until someone steps into the situation from outside (from the gov't) and sets the community building cycle up so that it can self-perpetuate a positive situation instead of self-perpetuating a horrible one.
However, not every child born into a ****ed situation is doomed to failure.
Why?
I don't know in all cases, but you'd have to agree that some realize that they are screwed if they continue in their parents footsteps.
Some see that the way out of oppression is to utilize the benefits The System provides them, at great expense.
The System is not & should not be set up to provide automated assistance.
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Yeah, I know there are people who 'get out' of a tore up system. I suppose I assume those are the ones who were personally helped by, I don't know, maybe a really good teacher who took a personal interest or an older community member who realizes the pit falls and 'mentors' the child into knowing what's up and how to succeed in America.
But I just cannot, cannot, say that if someone is born into a really bad situtation that they should be expected to realize that and lift themselves out. Part of the reason it is called a really bad situation is because, from within that situation, there seems to be no path out of it.
But I just cannot, cannot, say that if someone is born into a really bad situtation that they should be expected to realize that and lift themselves out. Part of the reason it is called a really bad situation is because, from within that situation, there seems to be no path out of it.
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