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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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You really don't get it? Why are you mixing the instances I used? Stewart can point out these problems- but I'm not holding him responsible for coming up with a solution that works, or allowing him to carry out the proposed solution.

So you're saying: because he is a comedian, we shouldn't take anything he says seriously, and we shouldn't give any of it a minute of thought.
What I'm saying is that you shouldn't write off Savage, because his intelligence is proven. I'm wondering if you'd give his book and what he says some thought. Savage is even a comedian of sorts... don't you think "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" has some comedic value?

I recognize that Savage's "savage" style can be a turnoff, but more often than not he actually has a valid point.

Anyway, I hope your absess gets better
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
What I'm saying is that you shouldn't write off Savage, because his intelligence is proven. I'm wondering if you'd give his book and what he says some thought. Savage is even a comedian of sorts... don't you think "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" has some comedic value?

I recognize that Savage's "savage" style can be a turnoff, but more often than not he actually has a valid point.

Anyway, I hope your absess gets better

I love it how you jump around... so is Stewart's opinion valid now? I don't care if you write off his view for yourself, but to question it's integrity just because he's a comedian? Gimme a break.

I'll write off Savage, and everything he stands for if I like. Having degrees and accreditation- and thus 'proven intelligence' [whatever that means] has no bearing on whether I should agree with and support his views. Personally, I am able to think for myself judge things for what they are- I don't need to rely on someone else's intellectual reputation to lead my way of thinking- nor would I be able to trust that they aren't being influenced by things besides those reflected in their 'proven intelligence.'

Savage's book does nothing but perpetuate the pea-brained notion that everything left of center is pathetic and worthless- lots of redneck hillbillies actually buy into this crap- and it is doing nothing to help our country. Stewart, on the other hand, has made it quite clear that he is sick of all the partisan BS, and merely makes logical observations and conclusions that even a 6-yr-old mongoloid could understand. His show may seem to support 'one side' in your eyes, but he doesn't get near as direct with his criticisms of the other end of the spectrum. And he certainly doesn't generalize blindly, never blaming 'conservatives' for the mishaps made by the admin., the church, or certain individuals. Once again, I think he lets the watcher think for themselves moreso than Savage does. I'm sure Savage does make some valid points- it would be odd if he was this successful at pure BS- but the problem arises when he shuts off the views of half the country, and makes the remaining half feel like their way of life is superior.

The truth is that both sides have different, but equally important, goals and objectives. Both can make valid points supporting their side. Interests often conflict, however, and this can cause problems. The thing is, most problems aren't even caused by valid conflicts, they are the result of one side stubbornly upholding their interests, or giving no thought or consideration to the interests of the other side. We should have common interests- and I'm sure we do. But by calling liberalism a mental disease, you are virtually eliminating any possibility of finding out what those common interests actually are, let alone trying to acheive them. Liberals may come off as more 'elitist,' but I think conservatives exude more of a 'righteous' air and are less open to outside opinion that may challenge what they believe.

But I guess, if Stewart turns you and other righties off, neither him nor Savage are good for the country- as they both pull it further apart.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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The truth is that both sides have different, but equally important, goals and objectives. Both can make valid points supporting their side.
This proves you don't know what the heck is going on. Dude, just suck it up and read the book.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
This proves you don't know what the heck is going on. Dude, just suck it up and read the book.

shhhyea. that's solid proof. Can you tell me one thing I'm missing, because I obviously 'don't know what the heck is going on' I don't need to read the book to know the important things he may touch on. I'm sure most of it is baseless liberal-bashing irrelevant to the issues meant to degrade the left and make the right feel superior. If I'm wrong- the title is way too misleading.

More effort, man- please. Otherwise, you continue to make no sense. At least a brief explanation, if you've got one.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Your bias against M.Savage is obvious. He does NOT align himself with the "right" how you think, and the "right" are consistently called out for all the bullcrap they do too.

Savage's "support" of the Republican Party, if you could even call it that, is usually based on the lesser of two evils.

I think you'd be surprised. That's all.

Originally Posted by scoobsport98
shhhyea. that's solid proof. Can you tell me one thing I'm missing, because I obviously 'don't know what the heck is going on' I don't need to read the book to know the important things he may touch on. I'm sure most of it is baseless liberal-bashing irrelevant to the issues meant to degrade the left and make the right feel superior. If I'm wrong- the title is way too misleading.
More effort, man- please. Otherwise, you continue to make no sense. At least a brief explanation, if you've got one.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Your bias against M.Savage is obvious. He does NOT align himself with the "right" how you think, and the "right" are consistently called out for all the bullcrap they do too.

Savage's "support" of the Republican Party, if you could even call it that, is usually based on the lesser of two evils.

I think you'd be surprised. That's all.

Oh god I need a good laugh today and just got it!!! Thanks hella. Savage sure is non-partison that bases things off the lesser of two evils. How could you even believe that.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Your bias against M.Savage is obvious. He does NOT align himself with the "right" how you think, and the "right" are consistently called out for all the bullcrap they do too.

Savage's "support" of the Republican Party, if you could even call it that, is usually based on the lesser of two evils.

I think you'd be surprised. That's all.
I wasn't trying to hide my bias- and I believe every bit of it is warranted.

And for someone who comes out with a book title that alienates half the population (the entire left), it's hard to believe he's aligning himself with anything other than the right. It's apparent from his book title that he represents somewhat of a bias against the entire left- so I don't see it so wrong to hold a bias against his opinion. I guess my beef is based mainly on his generalization of 'liberals' in the title. I see no reason to read past that and further pollute my mind with more BS. Again, I'm not at all questioning his intelligence or the fact that he probably makes some fair points in the book. But from first impression- by reading the title- it makes me think he's an idiot, or close-minded at the least. And it's also hard to believe that the title is the only breach of common, logical reason in the book. Therefore- I'll pass.
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Oh god I need a good laugh today and just got it!!! Thanks hella. Savage sure is non-partison that bases things off the lesser of two evils. How could you even believe that.

NON-PARTISAN ALERT!!!

...that was great last night...
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Oh god I need a good laugh today and just got it!!! Thanks hella. Savage sure is non-partison that bases things off the lesser of two evils. How could you even believe that.
Well, I don't know any other famous talk show host, best-selling authors, etc that say "Where's Waldo" when referring to the President
Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Well, I don't know any other famous talk show host, best-selling authors, etc that say "Where's Waldo" when referring to the President

You need to watch "The Daily Show" more often then. You know that he is a best-selling auther after all.
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