What inorganic matter...Dude you aren't up on biological or mathematical probability are you?

Also you make a poke at "theory". Theory is a idea that has basis in fact, it has not been proven yet, so it is not fact. That said...did you by chance have PROOF your ghost in the clouds exists? *looks around* nope, didn't think so.

 

thinking about eternal, infinite, and the universe also does that to them.

or how about this
take one ball, it can be breakin down into infinite amount of pieces. but using mathematical reasoning. you can make two ***** of the same original size out of that original one ball

 

or also using mathematical proofs 1 equals 2

 

Much will be answered on the day the LHC is fired. We...man, will have for 1/1000000th of a second, created a universe. In doing so we will prove beyond all doubt 'god' does not exist.

It will be the greatest day in mankind's history. The day we can finally get past the whole mythical all powerful ghost and get on with our own evolution.

 

christianity isn't a theory tho. so proof as in like a theory is not needed.

 

hmm seems like i will wait for this "awesome day" that will never come. that sounds like waiting around for evolution to prove they have a theory of the beginning with proof of it. im sorry, i like what i beleive in and i have no issues with what you believe in. everyone has a different view on things and i understand that completely. but waiting for the day LHC is fired?? come on.. and i will wait to see this "day" you speak of.

peace out
ryan~

 

Exactly, because christianity can't even stand up on its own without "faith". That fact, in and of itself helps to prove the very idea of "god" existing is false.

For you to stand there and tell me "Oh I know god exists" well please, show me proof. Otherwise I could just as easily say I have a purple unicorn named bud in my back yard, you can't see him but if you don't believe in him, he will smite you down and send your soul to a pit of fire for eternity.

Get it?

 

seeing isn't believing.

believe and you shall see the kingdom of heaven, and guess what i see what is coming of my life, i am sorry you do not see what i do but like i said, not everyone does

 

wikipedia and the vatican homepage

 

was WT a scholar of ancient languages as well? sources please.



something else shakespeare and the bible have in common: works of fiction

 

how about this, why dont you point out to me where basic laws like gravity are explained by jesus?


both questions are equally ridiculous, but the big bang has at least some evidence to back it up.

there is no record of jesus other than the gospels. nothing in the bible can be backed by historical record, and the romans are well known for being extraordinary record keepers.

and they have no record of a man named jesus

 

how did absolutely nothing become your religion? and how old is the earth again?

 

i dont have enough evidence to judge where we came from in interstellar terms. why dont you explain, without any fable created in the past 10,000 years, explain how we came to be?

the point is not that science has all the answers, it that the answers offered by science are allot more reasonable than talking snakes, burning bushes, and whittling a mans rib to make a woman.

"JUST A THEORY" is a term used by the ignorant.

once again i say to you, look up the definition of theory. beyond that, its not just a theory but a THEORUM.... a theory that has been backed by experimentation.







how about this, doubting thomas, without quoting the book of man (bible) or other judeo christian works, prove to me that your god exists and i will answer anyway questions you want about how i believe the universe came to fruition as wholey and as honestly (and long windedly) as i am capable of.

 

what i dont understand is asking questions about the answer that nobody knows, not even the best scientists. we only have theories and possibilities. i find theories much more amusing and understanble than "god" snapped his fingers and created everything.

i've posted before, possible first form of multi-celled organism is the sea sponge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Sponge dont ask me to answer everything because i'm no scientist or studied in the field, its not as simple as god creating earth. when you hear what god did on the bible, when he created the universe, there is nothing to think about, you're just taking in what you're told. theories try to back the claim by giving information on why a is related to b and then to c.

if i did know how life and universe started, i dont think i'd be posting casually on i-club.
science is not as simple as the "informations" in bible, is this agreeable?

science is always evolving. didnt everyone think earth was flat? didnt people think rain was act of god? eclipse? sun? there are still many things unanswered and humans have alot of advances to be made. all those "unexplained" things were explained as act of god, simple. but one by one we're understanding how they work, only thing left is "where did life start?", "how was the universe created?" its something we have no answer for but we have possibilities. did anyone know about tectonic plates 100 years ago?

you guys are just throwing all those ideas out the window and just accept god's work as the ultimate answer, to that, what can i say? i'm trying to reply with evidance and theories but i'm returned with critisizm on unfinished theories and nothing but stories from the bible...why not the koran? torah? i'm no expert, do they all say the same thing?
theories are process of elimination, its always changing and evolving for better answer. discrediting theory is like judging an unfinished art work as if it was finished.

and about the shoebox theory, one of major factor in evolution is natural selection...i dont know if that has anything to do with watches but in terms of the universe it went something like this:

dust clouds are formed of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, other various elements. they're attracted to each other by their own gravity. as the dust ball gets bigger, gravity and density increases. once it is dense enough, the core will heat up and start to glow and cause thermonuclear reactions. this is the theory, we see it happening around us in far parts of our galaxy. now, the question is, where did these gas clouds come from?
two answers, super novas. dead stars will explode and during that process new elments are created like gold, platinum, those will later gather up and repeat the process. process of stars dying and reborn creats new elements. but how is the very first formed? where did the clouds come from? thats where big bang theory comes into play.

similar stories for planets. this theory was worked on for many, many years until evidance and more theories were put on top of it. it was made possible by many scientists looking for answers and to increase our knowledge.

 

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