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Old 02-23-2009, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jin
soooo the egyptians, those in BC or Greeks or any of those BC civilizations, they goto hell because they never heard of the lord jesus christ? cavemen?

just saying no religion is correct. god may exist but i dont think he'll take sides. if he does, thats a naughty god.
nah, its more likely that they knew the 'real' jesus:

story of the god Horus is practically identical to jesus and dates to 2000BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus
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yeah and they both related to the nature of the sun.
same example as the greek mythology, but horus with more scientific knowledge.

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cats and dogs?
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WRrex
cats and dogs?
tiger = vicious
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liger = viciously awesome

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Ohh moved out of Bay Area section...now the threads dead!
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Originally Posted by irrational x
judge not lest you be judged. some humble servant of god you are. besides, i dont relish in the suffering of others as your god does.
that was your mind trying to say +1 jesusfreaks...but that would be you admitting defeat.
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
Once again, before deluding the conversation with claims and no facts... please present facts. It's just rude to make me look up everything while others get away with adding gasoline to the fire without having to cite what they say...
i find it funny that he requests that everyone else post referenced facts and sources, then dismisses the facts posted, and proceeds to pass more of his fairy tail off as 'fact'.
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Originally Posted by Jin
tiger = vicious
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gotta love demetri martin.
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Someone answer this for me.

If you have so much knowledge in Christianity, tell me why you follow the King James version, or the NIV bibles for that matter.

It is very clear that there are many mistranslation OR possible mistranslations of the modern biblical text. People only understanding English are so clueless to this, and it is actually quite amusing.

For a lot of words in Greek, for instance, there are multiple translations for those words. The original translators (conveniently from the church) had the option to choose meanings that better suited their purpose. For example, the first line of the "old testament" originally speaks of "Elohim". Elohim roughly means "people from the sky". It is plural.

Also, I do not think anyone here is qualified to debate about the matter.


And. I believe religion can help people for their own reasons. People are not wrong for what they believe, but if they try to justify a sacred text they should be prepared for a backlash, and this especially goes for Christians since the text of the bible was lost on several occasions and rewritten over and over again.
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Originally Posted by irrational x
1.) god is pleased by people having faith in him
2.) people have faith / are lead to him through suffering
3.) god is omnipotent and has the power to stop the suffering but does not.

this mean god is deriving pleasure by causing suffering. that is the text book definition of psychopath.


the god you worship is a psychopath.
That's how it is right? God is like a buffet?

Get what you want and not what you don't want... fruit salad... but not pea salad... french fries.... chicken... but no veggies...

You get to go through and pick what you want and don't want... which is what people are doing with God today...

I'll take a little bit of the grace of God, but I don't want any judgment please...

I'll take this verse that says God blesses me, but no discipline.

I like the verse that says He has plans to prosper me and to bless me, not to hurt me... but I don't like that verse that says to be generous...

God created us in His image... and many of us are returning the favor...

The problem is people forget, at the end of the line... you have to pay.

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Old 02-23-2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
Yes, but they read, and believe in, the new testament.
The NT declares Christ as God in the Flesh... if they do not believe that, then they do not believe Christ is who he his. And how can one be a Christian without believing He whom they are named after?
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I see know harm in having faith in a higher power.
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Originally Posted by irrational x
Irony. A religion that derived from the same place as Christianity. What do they have in common? There are many close minded extremists on both sides.
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
And I will continue to state that the Messiah brings peace on Earth.
Your response (to me telling you that if you are going to say something I disagree with, then you need to quote it) is to say that you will continue to state it without quoting it or presenting evidence for your statement?
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
Im pretty sure that there is more evidence of Judaism than there is of Christianity. As you should know Judaism is significantly older than Christiantiy, not to mention Jesus himself was a Jew.
Are you saying that Christianity does not include the OT that Judaism includes?
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