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Old 01-10-2009, 03:03 PM
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I just really don't understand the anti-jew crap at the BART police rally... Those loony idiots will use anything and everything to have their voice heard... Not talking about that group in general, just talking about fanatic racists.

That had to have been an accident from a very jittery cop... If that was done on purpose, he needs to be put away for life... F'ing guy was basically defenseless! I bet he's sweating bullets (pun intended) right now as his future is going to be bumpy after this mess.

I dont understand how a COP, someone who is fully trained with firearms can have his or her finger on the trigger in that sort of situation... NEVER, EVER, EEEEVVVEEERR put your finger on the trigger unless you're about to shoot. That idiot should have been in a low and ready position with his finger OFF the trigger... Hell, he shouldn't have even had his gun drawn, it should have had his pepper spray or stun gun out for that kind of situation, especially with all those people around.

So, in closing, that cop is a friggin idiot who shouldn't have a badge. I know the gun didn't slam fire or discharge on its own because they don't use crappy guns... Probably a glock or a sig P220/226/229, no way would those guns malfunction like some cheap Chinese/Philippines knock off garbage.
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do these people have jobs???

i mean they are destroying stuff and busting stuff up and dont care im guessing no
Protesting is not the same as rioting. It's the rioting that came later that is the problem.

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I just really don't understand the anti-jew crap at the BART police rally... Those loony idiots will use anything and everything to have their voice heard... Not talking about that group in general, just talking about fanatic racists.

That had to have been an accident from a very jittery cop... If that was done on purpose, he needs to be put away for life... F'ing guy was basically defenseless! I bet he's sweating bullets (pun intended) right now as his future is going to be bumpy after this mess.

I dont understand how a COP, someone who is fully trained with firearms can have his or her finger on the trigger in that sort of situation... NEVER, EVER, EEEEVVVEEERR put your finger on the trigger unless you're about to shoot. That idiot should have been in a low and ready position with his finger OFF the trigger... Hell, he shouldn't have even had his gun drawn, it should have had his pepper spray or stun gun out for that kind of situation, especially with all those people around.

So, in closing, that cop is a friggin idiot who shouldn't have a badge. I know the gun didn't slam fire or discharge on its own because they don't use crappy guns... Probably a glock or a sig P220/226/229, no way would those guns malfunction like some cheap Chinese/Philippines knock off garbage.
One of the articles I read suggest the officer thought he was grabbing is stun gun rather than the handgun. However, due to the difference in size, shape, and color, I find this very unlikely.

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they have TAZER brand tazers...

which happens to be the same grip as... the glock.
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I wonder how many of those protesters have actual jobs and pay taxes? Not to many I'm sure. Let the legal system sort out what happened to Oscar Grant. If protesters threatened me or my property in any way I would exercise my right to bear arms.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
I just really don't understand the anti-jew crap at the BART police rally... Those loony idiots will use anything and everything to have their voice heard... Not talking about that group in general, just talking about fanatic racists.
you ever visit the site that's on those PRE PRINTED signs?

answercoalition.org

Steering Committee:
IFCO/Pastors for Peace
Free Palestine Alliance - U.S.
Haiti Support Network
Partnership for Civil Justice - LDEF
Nicaragua Network
Alliance for Just and Lasting Peace in the Philippines
Korea Truth Commission
Muslim Student Association - National
Kensington Welfare Rights Union
Mexico Solidarity Network
Party for Socialism and Liberation
check out zombietime.com for anything against these yahoos...
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I wonder how many of those protesters have actual jobs and pay taxes? Not to many I'm sure. Let the legal system sort out what happened to Oscar Grant. If protesters threatened me or my property in any way I would exercise my right to bear arms.
A) once AGAIN, its the RIOTERS that cause damage, there is nothing wrong with protesting. I don't get why that is such a hard concept.
B) Legal system sorting it all out? Hmm, I think I've mentioned it before in regards to this situation; please look up "Rodney King"
C) your right to bear arms doesn't give you the right to take a life to protect the windshield of your car. Just something to be aware of
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
A) once AGAIN, its the RIOTERS that cause damage, there is nothing wrong with protesting. I don't get why that is such a hard concept.
B) Legal system sorting it all out? Hmm, I think I've mentioned it before in regards to this situation; please look up "Rodney King"
C) your right to bear arms doesn't give you the right to take a life to protect the windshield of your car. Just something to be aware of
If I'm in my vehicle, and you throw a rock at the windshield, you're dead.
And I won't spend a minute in jail.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
If I'm in my vehicle, and you throw a rock at the windshield, you're dead.
And I won't spend a minute in jail.
We know Paul, you like to test the limits of the law, you're a badass. Do you consider a rock a deadly weapon?
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
If I'm in my vehicle, and you throw a rock at the windshield, you're dead.
And I won't spend a minute in jail.


Good luck with that, because you would, even IF (not when, as you seem to think) you were found innocent. Think about while you wait for arraignment, and possibly even during trial.

But honestly, if you shot or otherwise beat a guy to death because he threw a rock at your windshield, its not an open and shut case of selfdefense lets you do whatever you want.
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I have managed, somehow, to live my life within the confines of the law(s). And certainly not to destroy the property of others. In a situation like the one above, when is one to distinguish between protesting and rioting? Or protester and rioteer? So now, my car is burned, my shop destroyed, and I have no recourse? I sure do. It is called the right to bear arms. Furthermore, enough with these chickensh%t protesters. Let the legal system do it what is designed to do.

If you are curious as to what I think the cop did was right. No I don't. But none of us have the full story. My qualm is with the pot smoking, no job having, no tax paying, non contributing protesters/rioters.
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Originally Posted by wimprezax06
that is what Oscar should have done, there are many witness, so take it to the court, he would have won easily.

if cop tries to do anything at the moment, just let them. remember the detail, talk to them, try to tell them what is happening. if they don't listen, then just wait til you see your lawyer and see the cop in court.

that way would be much safer for both the cop, and the citizens.
have u watched any of the videos?


u do realize he was already detained right....on the ground....cuffed...


that's what the whole protest was about...
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Originally Posted by AzN121184
have u watched any of the videos?


u do realize he was already detained right....on the ground....cuffed...


that's what the whole protest was about...
Was he cuffed? In the latest videos his arms looks awfully free when they roll him over after hes shot. And if by 'detained' you mean struggling with officers trying to successfully cuff him, then yeah, he was 'detained'.
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Originally Posted by Sti Kix
I have managed, somehow, to live my life within the confines of the law(s). And certainly not to destroy the property of others. In a situation like the one above, when is one to distinguish between protesting and rioting? Or protester and rioteer? So now, my car is burned, my shop destroyed, and I have no recourse? I sure do. It is called the right to bear arms. Furthermore, enough with these chickensh%t protesters. Let the legal system do it what is designed to do.

If you are curious as to what I think the cop did was right. No I don't. But none of us have the full story. My qualm is with the pot smoking, no job having, no tax paying, non contributing protesters/rioters.
Are you this drunk with the thought of power? The right to bear arms gives the right to have a gun, not use it as you please. I try to reserve this statement for when it is truly necessary... you sir, are retarded, if that is the what you think the law entitles you to do.

What is the difference between protesting and rioting? Those people holding the signs, those people make speeches to convey there message, are protesting. The people destroying property in an attempt to avenge the death of Grant are rioters. What is so hard to understand about that?
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In TX you can use lethal force to protect your property. Can't really say I'm in disagreement with this law, I hate few things more than I hate thieves.
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Was he cuffed? In the latest videos his arms looks awfully free when they roll him over after hes shot. And if by 'detained' you mean struggling with officers trying to successfully cuff him, then yeah, he was 'detained'.
2 or 3 cops on one scrawny individual....there was no need for the gun. Yes he was detained. He was shot while an officer was kneeling on him! You're pretty powerless when you're stuck between the ground and two officers.
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