Peace Loving Muslims Blow up Hotel
06-11-2009, 08:32 AM
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You're missing my point. I'm not saying there aren't peaceful Muslims because that's just silly talk. I'm just saying that the one percent (13,000,000 or the population of Illinois) is giving you and other Muslims a bad rap. Sorry but the word of 13million people can't easily be dismissed.
06-11-2009, 08:37 AM
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This is where it doesn't make sense. Why don't you lump them in? If they really wanted to commit these acts then why use Religion as an excuse? Seems like too much effort. My point is Religion can be a beautiful thing but it can also be the problem. There are many different forms of Christianity so why can't there be one that's more radical? We accept every other form ranging from the ones that belittle women and speak tongues to churches with stereotypical flamboyant preachers that know how to work a crowd.
They can say, "God wants me to burn down these buildings and kill these people," when really it's just, "I hate these people (for whatever reason) and want to kill them. If I can blame it on a higher power then I can deffer the moral decision making process."
06-11-2009, 08:52 AM
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More importantly terrorists acts ON U.S. SOIL BY U.S. citizens- The Klan, the Army of God
A number of terrorist attacks, including the Centennial Olympic Park bombing during the 1996 Summer Olympics, were carried out by individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements; including the Aryan Nations and the Lambs of Christ.
A group called Concerned Christians unsuccessfully planned to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."
A group called Concerned Christians unsuccessfully planned to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."
Again, I have to point out, it seems to me like the majority of people being killed and injured in these "Islamic" bombings are Muslims. The most recent bombing in India - I think I hear that 11 people were killed and two of those were UN people.
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06-11-2009, 09:25 AM
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What if we asked these 13,000,000 people to associate their take on the Muslim faith with a different name? Peaceful Muslims would alienate their lion-share faster than you could say Allah by recognizing them as the evil, hate-driven religion.
So are they part of your religion or not? Nobody said being apart of the world's largest religion was easy. That crown getting a little heavy, Ryball. ****ing deal with it.
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06-11-2009, 09:49 AM
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Isn't that what all practitioners of Religion do? I'm confused. If I approached someone after their daily prayer and asked them why they do this I would expect them to say "God wants me to pray five times a day", not "I noticed everyone else was doing it so why the hell not?" So if an action is based on violence it just doesn't count despite 13,000,000 views? You realize this is the size of the Mormon Church and we recognize them as a religion.
What if we asked these 13,000,000 people to associate their take on the Muslim faith with a different name? Peaceful Muslims would alienate their lion-share faster than you could say Allah by recognizing them as the evil, hate-driven religion.
So are they part of your religion or not? Nobody said being apart of the world's largest religion was easy. That crown getting a little heavy, Ryball. ****ing deal with it.
What if we asked these 13,000,000 people to associate their take on the Muslim faith with a different name? Peaceful Muslims would alienate their lion-share faster than you could say Allah by recognizing them as the evil, hate-driven religion.
So are they part of your religion or not? Nobody said being apart of the world's largest religion was easy. That crown getting a little heavy, Ryball. ****ing deal with it.
06-11-2009, 10:02 AM
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Again, the big difference is that Islam is still the Islam of 1300 yrs ago.
There's no New Testament to the Qur'an to temper the "kill the non-believer".
Yes, I understand that most Muslims would not kill me for not believing.
Look at Esam Omeish.
He still believes in "the jihad way."
I don't get it.
There's no New Testament to the Qur'an to temper the "kill the non-believer".
Yes, I understand that most Muslims would not kill me for not believing.
Look at Esam Omeish.
He still believes in "the jihad way."
I don't get it.
06-11-2009, 10:12 AM
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To further address the Christian violence/terrorism, State sponsored Capital Punishment, etc:
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years
06-11-2009, 10:22 AM
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Again, the big difference is that Islam is still the Islam of 1300 yrs ago.
There's no New Testament to the Qur'an to temper the "kill the non-believer".
Yes, I understand that most Muslims would not kill me for not believing.
Look at Esam Omeish.
He still believes in "the jihad way."
I don't get it.
There's no New Testament to the Qur'an to temper the "kill the non-believer".
Yes, I understand that most Muslims would not kill me for not believing.
Look at Esam Omeish.
He still believes in "the jihad way."
I don't get it.
True, there are no "New Testament" writings because there is room to interpret the original writings in the context of current times.
Where the difference lies is the literal interpretation of strict "Islamic law" from single scriptures without taking the whole into account.
jihad in terms of the widely accepted "internal spiritual struggle" rather than an "armed struggle." The ideals of non-violence are prevalent in Liberal Muslim ideology and backed by Qu'ranic text; "permission to fight is given only to those who have been oppressed... who have been driven from their homes for saying,'God is our Lord'" (22:39)
06-11-2009, 10:40 AM
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To further address the Christian violence/terrorism, State sponsored Capital Punishment, etc:
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years
I have to ask again, how many Muslims were killed in these "Islamist" attacks?
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