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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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and just to be fair here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_terrorism
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
If you want to call it Christian, what would Christ think? Would he support it?

If you want to call it Islamic, do you think Mohammed would?
Just to clarify, I can't believe I have to say this, Muslims do not worship Mohammed as God.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub


1478 Spanish Inquisition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquistion


And don't even start with the Crusades, the killing of the American Indians - whom the Christians would hang in groups of 13 to symbolize their Messiah and 12 apostles; then burn them alive.
Let's try to keep it relatively current, since that is what I think we are trying to talk about.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
The ends do NOT justify the means, especially in this case.

Both would be utterly sickened ...
truth. But just to clarify again, Muslims do not follow Mohammed as God. They may follow his example as a prophet, but do not worship him as God or do things in his name.

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Anyone else find it funny you had to go back over 500 years?
Originally Posted by ryball
Let's try to keep it relatively current, since that is what I think we are trying to talk about.
I don't believe chronological placement in the Canon of time has any impact on the point being made; why should it?
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Anyone else find it funny you had to go back over 500 years?
mmmm no, it makes sense.
christianity or the western religion changed alot with modernization...i dont think i can say the same for islam.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
I don't believe chronological placement in the Canon of time has any impact on the point being made; why should it?
I think we are talking about progress and moving forward. The argument is always made that Christianity has done all of these horrible things in the past, but they have reformed (at least from widespread killing) and that Islam has not done the same.

I think that Islam has made great progress on a whole as the youngest of the three religions, but that progress has been horribly set back by the extremists, radicals, and terrorists.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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These are some down right, scary *********ers:

The Sons of Freedom, a sect of Doukhobor anarchists, have protested nude, blown up power pylons, railroad bridges, and set fire to homes, often targeting their own property
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R-Dub...let's keep it to the last 100yrs.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Jesus ****ing Christ!?!!?

Are you seriously trying to compare insane nudist Luddites with Islamic terrorists?!?


Freedomites

Some of the Freedomites (A very small minority) were notable for their arson campaigns, as a sign of their protest against materialistic life. They targeted belongings and other material possessions. The attacks occurred throughout the 20th century, but the periods of greatest activity was during the 1920s and 1960s. Both arson and bombing were used. Targets included the property of themselves and other Doukhbors to further exhibit their dislike of materialism; Attacks on schools to resist government pressure to school Svobodnik children; and attacks on transportation and communications. Most of these acts were committed in the nude.
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Originally Posted by Jin
mmmm no, it makes sense.
christianity or the western religion changed alot with modernization...i dont think i can say the same for islam.
Really? Because of the small percentage of radicals that get all the news coverage?
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For ****'s sake, they were targeting their own!
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Are all Muslims bad?
No.
Are all terrorists Muslim?
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Jesus ****ing Christ!?!!?

Are you seriously trying to compare insane nudist Luddites with Islamic terrorists?!?


Freedomites
arson, bombing, attacks on schools, transportation, communications?

Terrorists, yes. Just because they were naked doesn't mean they weren't terrorists.

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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Are all Muslims bad?
No.
Are all terrorists Muslim?
No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
For ****'s sake, they were targeting their own!
So how is that an Islamic war on non-believers? That is a bunch of crazy terrorists carrying out a terrorist attack on... non-terrorists.



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