I swear that the message the Democrats have for them WILL put a chip on their shoulder, rightfully so or not. If I was a minority, I'd probably blame someone else for me being stuck in middle management so damn long, besides the truth that it is up to me to take a risk and start my own firm.

You may be right about SOME asians, though I know of 3rd generation Chinese-Americans who still are kicking ***. The thing that gets me is that what Bill Cosby has to say is right on the republican party line. People need to help themselves, not stand around waiting for a handout.

Oh, and about the hispanics, immigration trends show that Many are 1st and 2nd generation, so that simply boils down to the cultural value system.

The truth is that neither the Dems nor the Republicans want to "fix" the mexican american culture because it would screw up all the low paying jobs that build new houses and keep the lettuce picked.

Edit- don't get me wrong, I think to make the U.S. as competitive as possible, we need to make more people do well.

 

I will agree with you on both points there. +1 for Helladumb and his sensible post!

-Chris

 

Its a lot more complicated than that. But the Democrats have supported more rights for them, which includes me. That was true in the past and is now. Especially with taxation, healthcare, and education. Hence they will vote Democrats over Republicans.

I will agree though that a lot of has to do with culture and up bringin. And its not always about race. I have a very good friend of mine that I met while taking some Community College classes during the summer. He is the same age I am, yet he is white and comes from a VERY poor family. He works a fulltime job and goes to school parttime. His father does not support this at all. He thinks he should just work, like he did. While my asains friend, his family does whatever possible for him to go to school. But he is a first generation here.

But I do agree though, we need to make the U.S. as competitive as possible and to achieve that more people need do well.

 

And that's where the parties differ as well. They both truly want immigrants and
"the native" population to succeed, but do it though vastly different means.

 

To me the parties differ in their levels of acceptance and implementation of socialist & communist beliefs and policies.

""During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized *Das Kapital* and *The Communist Manifesto.* I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day. First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God. This I could never accept, for as a Christian, I believe that there is a creative personal power in the universe who is the ground and essence of all reality-a power that cannot be explained in materialistic terms. History is ultimately guided by spirit, not matter. Second, I strongly disagreed with communism's ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything-force, violence murder, lying-is a justifiable means to the 'millennial' end. This type of relativism was abhorrent to me. Constructive ends can never give absolute moral justification to destructive means, because in the final analysis the end is preexistent in the means. Third, I opposed communism's political totalitarianism. In communism, the individual ends up in subjection to the state. True, the Marxists would argue that the state is an 'interim' reality which is to be eliminated when the classless society emerges; but the state is the end while it lasts, and man is only a means to that end. And if man's so-called rights and liberties stand in the way of that end, they are simply swept aside. His liberties of expression, his freedom to vote, his freedom to listen to what news he likes or to choose his books are all restricted. Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state.

This deprecation of individual freedom was objectionable to me. I am convinced now, as I was then, that man is an end because he is a child of God. Man is not made for the state; the state is made for man. To deprive man of freedom is to relegate him to the status of a thing, rather than elevate him to the status of a person. Man must never be treated as means to the end of the state; but always as an end within himself."

Martin Luther King Jr., *Stride Toward Freedom: The Montgomery Story* (New York: Harper and Row, 1957), 92-93"

 

Fantastic quote...