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Old 03-16-2005, 07:49 PM
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Liberalism is a sickness

It’s interesting to hear liberals bash president bush and compare him to Hitler or like the **** which the do all the time, because of what is really a weak stance on immigration. They claim he’s to harsh, but then all these liberals who said if bush won the election they would move to Canada. They were all turned down by Canada’s government and told they must follow the same strict immigration procedures as everyone else. I guess Canada is full of a bunch of *****, but all these liberals wanted to go there. Its interesting how according to liberals a good economy under president Clinton was good, while under bush its fascism but, These same liberals are more than happy to participate in this current economy making corporations richer.
What hypocrites!

Here are several other facts. The ***** supported gun control and disarmed the Jews American liberals support gun control. Adolph Hitler was pro-abortion liberals are pro-abortion. Hitler was a socialist; liberals are socialist. Hitler and his ***** banned religion and Hitler became a demigod. Liberals are attacking religion and the Ten Commandments and attempting to turn the United States government into a demigod. Adolph Hitler and the ***** hated the United States. So does Saddam Hussein who also hated president bush who is also hated by liberals

Add it all up and the liberals in the United Sates are just like Hitler and the *****. The ***** were no different then the communists. Yes, liberals make absolutely no sense. Liberalism is a sickness detrimental to us all.

Like it or not that’s my take
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The word "liberal" has a way different meaning than it did between 1860 and 1965. Not that being liberal is bad, because many of our civil rights have been brought too us by traditional liberalism. So you have to give liberalism some credit. But Modern liberalism is defenitely getting out of control in the name of political correctness.

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Its interesting how according to liberals a good economy under president Clinton was good, while under bush its fascism but, These same liberals are more than happy to participate in this current economy making corporations richer.
What hypocrites!
I agree mostly with this part, Clinton gets way too much credit for the E-conomy of the 1990's, could it have possibly had anything to bo with the major advent of the personal computer and technology industry, Internet and even mainstream use of of telecomunication systems? No it couldn't be... that would mean jobs are created by the private sector in a capitalist society. Socialists aren't gonna give any credit to evil capitalists. I'd give more credit to bill gates and motorola in "creating" jobs than clinton any day.

Interesting post though Edgar. I'm sure have some of the resident libs chime in and tell you you're ignorant pretty soon.

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Old 03-17-2005, 06:03 AM
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Interesting post though Edgar. I'm sure have some of the resident libs chime in and tell you you're ignorant pretty soon.
Why? Whats the point. So he can come back and say no I'm not and come up with a whole bunch more lame reasons why liberalism is just like being a ****? What is the point of his post? This is exactly why most libs don't visit this forum, it's just a bash fest. Besides I don't need to express that he is ignorant. His post says it all.

Good job Edgar, you just took yourself down to the level of all the libs that claim that bush = hitler. Ya, you sound real smart making that claim.

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The word "liberal" has a way different meaning than it did between 1860 and 1965. Not that being liberal is bad, because many of our civil rights have been brought too us by traditional liberalism. So you have to give liberalism some credit. But Modern liberalism is defenitely getting out of control in the name of political correctness.
I could not have said it better myself. Liberals have done many very good things, just like conservatives have done some very good things. To generalize and then compare to hitler and the ****'s is completely asinine. Much like comparing GWB and Hitler is completely asinine.
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good post

Well said:
Originally Posted by zumnwrx
It’s interesting to hear liberals bash president bush and compare him to Hitler or like the **** which the do all the time, because of what is really a weak stance on immigration. They claim he’s to harsh, but then all these liberals who said if bush won the election they would move to Canada. They were all turned down by Canada’s government and told they must follow the same strict immigration procedures as everyone else. I guess Canada is full of a bunch of *****, but all these liberals wanted to go there. Its interesting how according to liberals a good economy under president Clinton was good, while under bush its fascism but, These same liberals are more than happy to participate in this current economy making corporations richer.
What hypocrites!

Here are several other facts. The ***** supported gun control and disarmed the Jews American liberals support gun control. Adolph Hitler was pro-abortion liberals are pro-abortion. Hitler was a socialist; liberals are socialist. Hitler and his ***** banned religion and Hitler became a demigod. Liberals are attacking religion and the Ten Commandments and attempting to turn the United States government into a demigod. Adolph Hitler and the ***** hated the United States. So does Saddam Hussein who also hated president bush who is also hated by liberals

Add it all up and the liberals in the United Sates are just like Hitler and the *****. The ***** were no different then the communists. Yes, liberals make absolutely no sense. Liberalism is a sickness detrimental to us all.

Like it or not that’s my take
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceej
I have a hunch that you; a) don't even vote b) really don't know what a liberal is.
I have a hunch that you didn't read his post with an open mind.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Why? Whats the point. So he can come back and say no I'm not and come up with a whole bunch more lame reasons why liberalism is just like being a ****?
Yeah, that's not the part I agree with. I can see how one could possibly draw a smidgen of comparison in a couple of the similar policies, even though the rationalle for the policies have completely different motives, but the comparison to the *****' is way over the top.

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This is exactly why most libs don't visit this forum, it's just a bash fest.
I agree wit this too, but it does go both ways. On a rare occasion people visit this forum to rationally discuss each others points of view, it may not seem like it but some of us actually come in here with an open mind, and would like to create dialog in order to gain a better understanding for one anothers beliefs. On the other hand, there are people who are plainly self righchous idealogs and just like to argue and call people names that they don't agree with.

Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
To generalize and then compare to hitler and the ****'s is completely asinine. Much like comparing GWB and Hitler is completely asinine.
No doubt.

Originally Posted by zumnwrx
Its interesting how according to liberals a good economy under president Clinton was good, while under bush its fascism but, These same liberals are more than happy to participate in this current economy making corporations richer.
What hypocrites!
This is the part I thought was interesting. You know something is pure propaganda when anyone, brings up the **** comparison, conservative or liberal.
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Originally Posted by Ceej
I have a hunch that you; a) don't even vote b) really don't know what a liberal is.
Please use quote tags so we know who you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Ceej
Whenever I see some moron using the word "liberal" as a bad thing I tend to close my mind in fear that their stupidity might be like the flu.
The word "liberal" can be good thing or a bad thing, just like the word "conservetive" can be a good thing or a bad thing, there are closed minded extremist, fools on both sides. I don't think the word "liberal" was the word that would anger anyone... it was probably the word ****, or the two being used in comparison to one another.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
I agree wit this too, but it does go both ways. On a rare occasion people visit this forum to rationally discuss each others points of view, it may not seem like it but some of us actually come in here with an open mind, and would like to create dialog in order to gain a better understanding for one anothers beliefs. On the other hand, there are people who are plainly self righchous idealogs and just like to argue and call people names that they don't agree with.
Just like we are doing right now. But lately it has been a conservative love-fest in here. The thing is there are alot of things I agree with that the conservatives do, just like there are alot of things the libs do that I agree with. I was supportive of the war from the start but I did grow a little perturbed when the focus suddenly changed and moved away from WMD's I have never wished for us to fail in any endeavors. I like the idea that the conservatives are for less government but this administration seems to be just the opposite of that. It is a virtual spend fest with Bush and co.

I don't know, I just like to find that happy medium and when I log in and listen to the blowhards on both sides of the street it gets old. I really do try to listen and understand peoples sides but listening to HD could drive a sane man crazy, much the same way that listening to psoper could drive someone nuts.

I guess if more people were in the middle like me and didn't have to sing the praises of every little thing the administration does I wouldn't feel this way. (and this goes for the people that loved the clinton administration and can't stop saying how great it was.) Lets just get the stuff done we have to do and move on ya know....

I must say that I am really enjoying this conversation though vibe.

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:06 PM
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I'm a conservative-liberal , I cant help that I'm a gemini

its even better with both side get along
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Originally Posted by Ceej
Whenever I see some moron using the word "liberal" as a bad thing I tend to close my mind in fear that their stupidity might be like the flu.
Sounds you are admitting a liberal mental disorder. I think that's what this thread is about, is it not?
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I guess if more people were in the middle like me and didn't have to sing the praises of every little thing the administration does I wouldn't feel this way. (and this goes for the people that loved the clinton administration and can't stop saying how great it was.) Lets just get the stuff done we have to do and move on ya know....
Defenitely, nobody is perfect, people need to jump off thier bandwagon and get over it.

I think the big communication problems in this forum stem from peolple not being able to, or having a hard time trying to articulate thier points without anger, and not taking the time to thouroughly explain thier views. Instead, it seems sometimes like people get too passionate in thier post and end up blurting out things that can easily be taken out of context, or misunderstood. This causes a bad impression of the point we're trying to make.
The other problem communication problem results when people don't read a post with an open mind, and end up just getting pissed off and not trying to really understand what someone is saying. We are all pretty guilty of this in one way or another. This is politics, and most of us are serious and passionate about our beliefs, but if you go into it thinking you are automatically right, and don't intend to learn something, you're already screwed. We all need to take a deep breath, read more clearly, and be way more specific in what we say.

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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Sounds you are admitting a liberal mental disorder. I think that's what this thread is about, is it not?
Who doesn't have some kind of mental disorder though. It's just as hard to take someone seriously who quotes michael savage, as it is some one who quotes ted kennedy or michael moore. The word "liberal" is way to general to draw a defenition or generalization to.

Although I do see civil rights (not nescasarilly talking about racism) being hijacked by lawers and special interest fronts... (oops I mean, groups), in the name of political correctness, I do see a difference in "traditional liberalism" "social liberalism"and "modern liberalism".

You do have to agree though that the content of the google banner at the bottom of this page is good for some laughs. True comedy.

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