Obama's Deception.
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Well, you're theorizing a large society with no governing body and no structure in place. What's to stop someone with a big ego or want of money and power to create a structure?
One can only guess as to how a structureless society could exist in sovereignty for any amount of time and how someone could gain control of that society.
One can only guess as to how a structureless society could exist in sovereignty for any amount of time and how someone could gain control of that society.
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We need a country willing to fight for what the 13 colonies fought for, freedom. The British tried to disarm the colonies and held troops in the nation. American's revolted and won (even in the worst of manners) and upon creation of the declaration of independence, it was built by written LAW of this land we live upon to create checks and balances. They have recently began the self enslavement with this Federal Government. We need is a government not afraid to be questioned or audited and a government that creates capital when borrowing money so we can give it back and then some. Instead, we have one that thinks that borrowing and spending it will somehow create stuff in America to sell back?
What do we create anymore? Apple, ok. That's all I can think of. The reason why things in a Walmart are so cheap is because the Chinese guy in China is making 10 bux a month. Meaning the goods by the time it finally arrives is probably worth a couple pennies. We need to make everything cheaper, cheap enough that the average household is around 100k, we need to have cheaper wages, we need to have cheaper everything, so we can actually sell back to other countries that can then afford the stuff we create.
Obama doesn't get it, he thinks building some roads in the states and structures are the way out... I'd go for it only if those roads led to places where manufacturers can create in mass, and in bulk, and cheap.
What do we create anymore? Apple, ok. That's all I can think of. The reason why things in a Walmart are so cheap is because the Chinese guy in China is making 10 bux a month. Meaning the goods by the time it finally arrives is probably worth a couple pennies. We need to make everything cheaper, cheap enough that the average household is around 100k, we need to have cheaper wages, we need to have cheaper everything, so we can actually sell back to other countries that can then afford the stuff we create.
Obama doesn't get it, he thinks building some roads in the states and structures are the way out... I'd go for it only if those roads led to places where manufacturers can create in mass, and in bulk, and cheap.
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We need a country willing to fight for what the 13 colonies fought for, freedom. The British tried to disarm the colonies and held troops in the nation. American's revolted and won (even in the worst of manners) and upon creation of the declaration of independence, it was built by written LAW of this land we live upon to create checks and balances. They have recently began the self enslavement with this Federal Government. We need is a government not afraid to be questioned or audited and a government that creates capital when borrowing money so we can give it back and then some. Instead, we have one that thinks that borrowing and spending it will somehow create stuff in America to sell back?
What do we create anymore? Apple, ok. That's all I can think of. The reason why things in a Walmart are so cheap is because the Chinese guy in China is making 10 bux a month. Meaning the goods by the time it finally arrives is probably worth a couple pennies. We need to make everything cheaper, cheap enough that the average household is around 100k, we need to have cheaper wages, we need to have cheaper everything, so we can actually sell back to other countries that can then afford the stuff we create.
Obama doesn't get it, he thinks building some roads in the states and structures are the way out... I'd go for it only if those roads led to places where manufacturers can create in mass, and in bulk, and cheap.
What do we create anymore? Apple, ok. That's all I can think of. The reason why things in a Walmart are so cheap is because the Chinese guy in China is making 10 bux a month. Meaning the goods by the time it finally arrives is probably worth a couple pennies. We need to make everything cheaper, cheap enough that the average household is around 100k, we need to have cheaper wages, we need to have cheaper everything, so we can actually sell back to other countries that can then afford the stuff we create.
Obama doesn't get it, he thinks building some roads in the states and structures are the way out... I'd go for it only if those roads led to places where manufacturers can create in mass, and in bulk, and cheap.
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The reason why things in a Walmart are so cheap is because the Chinese guy in China is making 10 bux a month. Meaning the goods by the time it finally arrives is probably worth a couple pennies. We need to make everything cheaper, cheap enough that the average household is around 100k, we need to have cheaper wages, we need to have cheaper everything, so we can actually sell back to other countries that can then afford the stuff we create.
Interesting because that's not why Walmart has cheap prices.
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Friedman (2007) The World is Flat.
Very good read.
http://books.google.com/books?id=-mv...num=9#PPR10,M1
Friedman (2007) The World is Flat.
Very good read.
http://books.google.com/books?id=-mv...num=9#PPR10,M1
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Friedman (2007) The World is Flat.
Very good read.
http://books.google.com/books?id=-mv...num=9#PPR10,M1
Friedman (2007) The World is Flat.
Very good read.
http://books.google.com/books?id=-mv...num=9#PPR10,M1
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It's very simple, we need to have chinese people having stuff "Made from the USA" when we can get cheap enough to sell affordable global things, then we can do it.
If I was in power, I'd drop the price overall in everything, suck up the trillions the government has lent out. That's how we make our dollar stronger. The stronger the dollar is, the more purchasing power we have. What we're doing is obviously the opposite.
I have 10 apples, you have 10 oranges. So maybe I'll trade one for one.
I have 1000000000 apples, you have 10 oranges. So the orange is worth a lot more apples than just one. Right now the US is heading towards the trillions of apples while the rest of the world isn't printing like we are. What does that mean? It means their currency is going to gain, and all of a sudden that china man working for 10 bux a month will be workin for 50 bux a month.
We'll see people in huge production countries like china, gain better lifestyles as the US dollar drops.
The idea of Unions was good, the idea that Unions won't allow wages to drop is not good. We're going to have to drop out of unions, so people can work for cheaper wages, and therefore everything else in the infrastructure must drop. In doing so, so should all the food, rent, everything. We need to get as low of a salary of being able to sell goods to other countries rather than consuming and consuming without investing to give back all the borrowing we're doing.
If I was in power, I'd drop the price overall in everything, suck up the trillions the government has lent out. That's how we make our dollar stronger. The stronger the dollar is, the more purchasing power we have. What we're doing is obviously the opposite.
I have 10 apples, you have 10 oranges. So maybe I'll trade one for one.
I have 1000000000 apples, you have 10 oranges. So the orange is worth a lot more apples than just one. Right now the US is heading towards the trillions of apples while the rest of the world isn't printing like we are. What does that mean? It means their currency is going to gain, and all of a sudden that china man working for 10 bux a month will be workin for 50 bux a month.
We'll see people in huge production countries like china, gain better lifestyles as the US dollar drops.
The idea of Unions was good, the idea that Unions won't allow wages to drop is not good. We're going to have to drop out of unions, so people can work for cheaper wages, and therefore everything else in the infrastructure must drop. In doing so, so should all the food, rent, everything. We need to get as low of a salary of being able to sell goods to other countries rather than consuming and consuming without investing to give back all the borrowing we're doing.
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It's very simple, we need to have chinese people having stuff "Made from the USA" when we can get cheap enough to sell affordable global things, then we can do it.
If I was in power, I'd drop the price overall in everything, suck up the trillions the government has lent out. That's how we make our dollar stronger. The stronger the dollar is, the more purchasing power we have. What we're doing is obviously the opposite.
I have 10 apples, you have 10 oranges. So maybe I'll trade one for one.
I have 1000000000 apples, you have 10 oranges. So the orange is worth a lot more apples than just one. Right now the US is heading towards the trillions of apples while the rest of the world isn't printing like we are. What does that mean? It means their currency is going to gain, and all of a sudden that china man working for 10 bux a month will be workin for 50 bux a month.
We'll see people in huge production countries like china, gain better lifestyles as the US dollar drops.
The idea of Unions was good, the idea that Unions won't allow wages to drop is not good. We're going to have to drop out of unions, so people can work for cheaper wages, and therefore everything else in the infrastructure must drop. In doing so, so should all the food, rent, everything. We need to get as low of a salary of being able to sell goods to other countries rather than consuming and consuming without investing to give back all the borrowing we're doing.
If I was in power, I'd drop the price overall in everything, suck up the trillions the government has lent out. That's how we make our dollar stronger. The stronger the dollar is, the more purchasing power we have. What we're doing is obviously the opposite.
I have 10 apples, you have 10 oranges. So maybe I'll trade one for one.
I have 1000000000 apples, you have 10 oranges. So the orange is worth a lot more apples than just one. Right now the US is heading towards the trillions of apples while the rest of the world isn't printing like we are. What does that mean? It means their currency is going to gain, and all of a sudden that china man working for 10 bux a month will be workin for 50 bux a month.
We'll see people in huge production countries like china, gain better lifestyles as the US dollar drops.
The idea of Unions was good, the idea that Unions won't allow wages to drop is not good. We're going to have to drop out of unions, so people can work for cheaper wages, and therefore everything else in the infrastructure must drop. In doing so, so should all the food, rent, everything. We need to get as low of a salary of being able to sell goods to other countries rather than consuming and consuming without investing to give back all the borrowing we're doing.
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