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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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brucelee, you call yourself a staff member? and this is the example you lead? by calling kanye west ignorant, and in the same sentence calling him an ape? i dunno about you, but when you see people of your same culture die every day, it hurts you inside. that's what he meant by "his people." don't be hypocritical.

how is this bush's fault? for one, he is the president of the country, he assumes full responsibility of whatever happens. isn't that what the president signs up for in ANY job? hmm..

well, let's see what past presidents have done in the past during natural disasters:

President Clinton was in Christchurch, New Zealand - meeting with President
Jiang of China (you know, actually working). He made the proclamation that
only Presidents can make and declared the areas affected by Floyd "Federal
Disaster Areas" so the National Guard and Military can begin to mobilize. Then he cut short his meetings overseas and flew home to coordinate the rescue efforts. This all one day BEFORE a Cat-3 hit the coast.


how about bush's dad? let's see what he did:

August, 1992 -- was in the midst of a brutal campaign
for re-election. Yet, he cut off his campaigning the day before and went to
Washington where he martialed the largest military operation on US soil in
history. He sent in 7,000 National Guard and 22,000 regular military
personnel, and all the gear to begin the clean up within hours after Andrew
passed through Florida. 'Cause, you know, those people and their stuff was
actually where it belonged, rather than being used for insurgent
target-practice halfway around the world in a vain effort to make Iraq safe
for Iranian takeover.


now let's see how bush tried his part:

August 2005 - Cat-5 Hurricane Katrina bears down on New Orleans
and the Mississippi gulf. Both states are down nearly 8,000 National Guard
troops because they are in Iraq -- with most of the rescue gear needed. Bush
is on vacation. The day before Katrina makes landfall, Bush rides his bike
for two hours. The day she hits, he goes to Johnnie McCain's birthday party. People are dying, the largest port of entry in the
United States (and fifth largest in the World) is under attack. Troops and
supplies are desperately needed. The levees are cracking and the emergency
1-1/2 ton sandbags are ready, but there aren't enough helicopters or pilots
to set them before the levees fail. The mayor of New Orleans begs for
Federal coordination, but there is none, and the sandbagging never gets
done. So Bush -- naturally -- goes to San Diego to play guitar with country
singer and lie to the military about how Iraq is just exactly like WWII. The
levees give way, filling New Orleans with water, sewage, oil and chemicals.
Ten percent of all US exports, and 50% of all agricultural exports ordinarly
go through this port. It is totally destroyed. Bush decides he'll end his
vacation a couple of days early -- TOMORROW --BECAUSE HE HAS TICKETS TO A
PADRES GAME! He goes back to the Fake Farm in Crawford, with every intention
of doing something on WEDNESDAY about this disaster that happened starting
last Sunday night.


yea, i'm sure the way the situation is right now has nothing to do with mr. bush, right? but it times of dire need, isn't the president the one person we count on?

it's not fluke when the whole world http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4211320.stm disses bush. are you going to label each and every one of those leaders a douche for dissing bush? just like kanye?

A 04 GUIZE, do you have any idea how long it would take to evacuate a whole city? 2 days is not even close. only spooks getting killed? you swear like because a few people do wrongful acts, that everyone is doing these wrongful acts, and that everyone deserves whats happened. what a way to generalize. you act like there aren't honest people out there dying.

and you hint that kanye is a "racist spook," but go on to say things like:

I'm not in the least bit racist but why is it that during a mandatory evacuation almost all the light skin type followed instructions and left while the majority of the black population stayed? As bad as it may be they can thank only themselves for their situation. Buses were leaving the city free of charge to Houston, Jackson and Atlanta. No excuse.

i hope you know that NO is about 80% black, so of course the majority of the people left behind will be black.

honestly, i dunno how any of you can talk so casually about the situation the way you do. watch this video:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Mee...-Broussard.wmv

listen to the story at the end, and keep your lack of sympathy for the victims. it'll show just how human you really are

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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by seek_knowledge
brucelee, you call yourself a staff member? and this is the example you lead? by calling kanye west ignorant, and in the same sentence calling him an ape? i dunno about you, but when you see people of your same culture die every day, it hurts you inside. that's what he meant by "his people." don't be hypocritical.

how is this bush's fault? for one, he is the president of the country, he assumes full responsibility of whatever happens. isn't that what the president signs up for in ANY job? hmm..

well, let's see what past presidents have done in the past during natural disasters:

President Clinton was in Christchurch, New Zealand - meeting with President
Jiang of China (you know, actually working). He made the proclamation that
only Presidents can make and declared the areas affected by Floyd "Federal
Disaster Areas" so the National Guard and Military can begin to mobilize. Then he cut short his meetings overseas and flew home to coordinate the rescue efforts. This all one day BEFORE a Cat-3 hit the coast.


how about bush's dad? let's see what he did:

August, 1992 -- was in the midst of a brutal campaign
for re-election. Yet, he cut off his campaigning the day before and went to
Washington where he martialed the largest military operation on US soil in
history. He sent in 7,000 National Guard and 22,000 regular military
personnel, and all the gear to begin the clean up within hours after Andrew
passed through Florida. 'Cause, you know, those people and their stuff was
actually where it belonged, rather than being used for insurgent
target-practice halfway around the world in a vain effort to make Iraq safe
for Iranian takeover.


now let's see how bush tried his part:

August 2005 - Cat-5 Hurricane Katrina bears down on New Orleans
and the Mississippi gulf. Both states are down nearly 8,000 National Guard
troops because they are in Iraq -- with most of the rescue gear needed. Bush
is on vacation. The day before Katrina makes landfall, Bush rides his bike
for two hours. The day she hits, he goes to Johnnie McCain's birthday party. People are dying, the largest port of entry in the
United States (and fifth largest in the World) is under attack. Troops and
supplies are desperately needed. The levees are cracking and the emergency
1-1/2 ton sandbags are ready, but there aren't enough helicopters or pilots
to set them before the levees fail. The mayor of New Orleans begs for
Federal coordination, but there is none, and the sandbagging never gets
done. So Bush -- naturally -- goes to San Diego to play guitar with country
singer and lie to the military about how Iraq is just exactly like WWII. The
levees give way, filling New Orleans with water, sewage, oil and chemicals.
Ten percent of all US exports, and 50% of all agricultural exports ordinarly
go through this port. It is totally destroyed. Bush decides he'll end his
vacation a couple of days early -- TOMORROW --BECAUSE HE HAS TICKETS TO A
PADRES GAME! He goes back to the Fake Farm in Crawford, with every intention
of doing something on WEDNESDAY about this disaster that happened starting
last Sunday night.


yea, i'm sure the way the situation is right now has nothing to do with mr. bush, right? but it times of dire need, isn't the president the one person we count on?

it's not fluke when the whole world http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4211320.stm disses bush. are you going to label each and every one of those leaders a douche for dissing bush? just like kanye?

A 04 GUIZE, do you have any idea how long it would take to evacuate a whole city? 2 days is not even close. only spooks getting killed? you swear like because a few people do wrongful acts, that everyone is doing these wrongful acts, and that everyone deserves whats happened. what a way to generalize. you act like there aren't honest people out there dying.

and you hint that kanye is a "racist spook," but go on to say things like:

I'm not in the least bit racist but why is it that during a mandatory evacuation almost all the light skin type followed instructions and left while the majority of the black population stayed? As bad as it may be they can thank only themselves for their situation. Buses were leaving the city free of charge to Houston, Jackson and Atlanta. No excuse.

i hope you know that NO is about 80% black, so of course the majority of the people left behind will be black.

honestly, i dunno how any of you can talk so casually about the situation the way you do. watch this video:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Mee...-Broussard.wmv

listen to the story at the end, and keep your lack of sympathy for the victims. it'll show just how human you really are

I agree 100%.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Sorry man, he might be a douch ( Tom Cruise is a good example, Great actor Horrible person but still makes great movies) but he makes innovative music and seems to get great reviews. Rolling Stones doesn't gibe 5 stars to just everyone. He is an artist that seems to get better with every passing year and CD. That is rarely seen today in music.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by seek_knowledge
yea, i'm sure the way the situation is right now has nothing to do with mr. bush, right? but it times of dire need, isn't the president the one person we count on?
Are u expecting him to walk out to the farthest point of the harbor and stand there with his hand out saying "STOP Katrina, STOP PLEASE, before you destroy these states."

He's only human. Of course he didn't go to the south immediately. I wouldn't if I knew a huge storm was coming. I'd get the F*** outta there as well. I would have taken the advice of all the authorities: EVACUATE.
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seek knowledge, your statements are complete and udder BS. Straight up. I'm not going to sit here and debate matters of opinion (i.e. if Bush was right or wrong) but I will point out to you where you are wrong, for sure.

1. The ports were unaffected by this entire incident. The Navy brought in TWO amphibious cruisers without any trouble and the levee breaks were on the opposite side of the city.

2. You clearly have no concept of military logistics. This becomes evident when you speak of the sandbags. Those have to be inserted by helo. and they COULD NOT fly until the winds lessened. Secondly, the "Tiger Brigade" (Lousiana NG 256th BDE) got back this week from Iraq but regardless would have been NMC (not mission capable) because they are an Infantry and Armor brigade which would have been of ZERO assistance as their equipment is rendered useless in saturated areas not to mention domestic, civilian occupied areas. 30 tons Abrams tanks destroy paved highways and Bradley Fighting Vehicles would have filled with water.

3. Louisiana's governor (Blanco) is refusing to allow NG states assisting in the disaster to be federalized which means they are not under the Presidents control, they are under there home states Governor's control. I will not debate her reasoning in THIS POST until it is needed.

4. 67% of the city is black so do your research before you start stating arbitrary numbers. It really lessens the competence of the rest of your trend-influenced bashing.

http://neworleans.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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[QUOTE=seek_knowledge]brucelee, you call yourself a staff member? and this is the example you lead? by calling kanye west ignorant, and in the same sentence calling him an ape? i dunno about you, but when you see people of your same culture die every day, it hurts you inside. that's what he meant by "his people." don't be hypocritical.

so your saying brucelee can't have an opinion because he is a staff member? I see "my same culture" dying down there. ****, I have family down there we haven't heard from yet, my grandmas house is probably flooded. I think Kayne West is a ignorant bastard, a piece of ****, and had NO right to say that "his people" were suffering, when obviously EVERYONE else is. tia.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by seek_knowledge
brucelee, you call yourself a staff member? and this is the example you lead? by calling kanye west ignorant, and in the same sentence calling him an ape? i dunno about you, but when you see people of your same culture die every day, it hurts you inside. that's what he meant by "his people." don't be hypocritical.

so your saying brucelee can't have an opinion because he is a staff member? I see "my same culture" dying down there. ****, I have family down there we haven't heard from yet, my grandmas house is probably flooded. I think Kayne West is a ignorant bastard, a piece of ****, and had NO right to say that "his people" were suffering, when obviously EVERYONE else is. tia.
ugh i had this conversation with a couple of black co-workers....they have the same victim mentality as kanye west, believing that theyre the victims of racism and that bush is making the guards/cops shoot black people only, forcing them to drop their stolen goods like tv, stereos, other stupid material goods NOT needed in a faking disaster like that. the black co-workers were obviously against me saying i dont know what its like, they have the right to steal that stuff blah blah blah typical ghetto thug wannabe bullsh1t....my argument was...stealing a tv isnt going to save your life, if youre going to loot...steal some damn necessities like food, water, maybe a jacket or whatever you may need to LIVE not a damn plasma tv...where the f'ing hell ru going to plug in a damn tv!??!!! but hey what does this white boy from california know huh? If anyone here listens to Glenn Beck...he said it best...."You DONT need to turn this into a racial situation when its NOT and just help/save the survivors there!" like i said...ignorant black people not thinking it through, just having the "victim mentality" trying to milk the situation and get anything they can...i hope people acting like them by looting unnecessary crap and acting like jagoffs die in the diaster, the world just may be a little better off weeding out the wastes of space


OVER ALL, SHUT UP, STOP BEING AN IDIOT, JUST HELP THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE! jesus christ seriously....
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
seek knowledge, your statements are complete and udder BS. Straight up. I'm not going to sit here and debate matters of opinion (i.e. if Bush was right or wrong) but I will point out to you where you are wrong, for sure.

1. The ports were unaffected by this entire incident. The Navy brought in TWO amphibious cruisers without any trouble and the levee breaks were on the opposite side of the city.

2. You clearly have no concept of military logistics. This becomes evident when you speak of the sandbags. Those have to be inserted by helo. and they COULD NOT fly until the winds lessened. Secondly, the "Tiger Brigade" (Lousiana NG 256th BDE) got back this week from Iraq but regardless would have been NMC (not mission capable) because they are an Infantry and Armor brigade which would have been of ZERO assistance as their equipment is rendered useless in saturated areas not to mention domestic, civilian occupied areas. 30 tons Abrams tanks destroy paved highways and Bradley Fighting Vehicles would have filled with water.

3. Louisiana's governor (Blanco) is refusing to allow NG states assisting in the disaster to be federalized which means they are not under the Presidents control, they are under there home states Governor's control. I will not debate her reasoning in THIS POST until it is needed.

4. 67% of the city is black so do your research before you start stating arbitrary numbers. It really lessens the competence of the rest of your trend-influenced bashing.

http://neworleans.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
First off, OWNED...


Originally Posted by maddhatteroo7
ugh i had this conversation with a couple of black co-workers....they have the same victim mentality as kanye west, believing that theyre the victims of racism and that bush is making the guards/cops shoot black people only, forcing them to drop their stolen goods like tv, stereos, other stupid material goods NOT needed in a faking disaster like that. the black co-workers were obviously against me saying i dont know what its like, they have the right to steal that stuff blah blah blah typical ghetto thug wannabe bullsh1t....my argument was...stealing a tv isnt going to save your life, if youre going to loot...steal some damn necessities like food, water, maybe a jacket or whatever you may need to LIVE not a damn plasma tv...where the f'ing hell ru going to plug in a damn tv!??!!! but hey what does this white boy from california know huh? If anyone here listens to Glenn Beck...he said it best...."You DONT need to turn this into a racial situation when its NOT and just help/save the survivors there!" like i said...ignorant black people not thinking it through, just having the "victim mentality" trying to milk the situation and get anything they can...i hope people acting like them by looting unnecessary crap and acting like jagoffs die in the diaster, the world just may be a little better off weeding out the wastes of space


OVER ALL, SHUT UP, STOP BEING AN IDIOT, JUST HELP THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE! jesus christ seriously....
Agreed. Unfortunately it happens all too often
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Seek_knowledge: You're obviously a troll. Nice handle BTW And having 8,000 troops in Iraq is irrelevant. We already had 10,000 troops on standby that hadn't been completely mobilized in NO due to the fact it was a logistical nightmare. My advice to you is to heed to your handle and don't be such a damn close-minded liberal

I mean how typical… handle: Seek_knowledge location: Bay Area posts: 1
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by seek_knowledge
brucelee, you call yourself a staff member? and this is the example you lead? by calling kanye west ignorant, and in the same sentence calling him an ape? i dunno about you, but when you see people of your same culture die every day, it hurts you inside. that's what he meant by "his people." don't be hypocritical.

how is this bush's fault? for one, he is the president of the country, he assumes full responsibility of whatever happens. isn't that what the president signs up for in ANY job? hmm..

well, let's see what past presidents have done in the past during natural disasters:

President Clinton was in Christchurch, New Zealand - meeting with President
Jiang of China (you know, actually working). He made the proclamation that
only Presidents can make and declared the areas affected by Floyd "Federal
Disaster Areas" so the National Guard and Military can begin to mobilize. Then he cut short his meetings overseas and flew home to coordinate the rescue efforts. This all one day BEFORE a Cat-3 hit the coast.


how about bush's dad? let's see what he did:

August, 1992 -- was in the midst of a brutal campaign
for re-election. Yet, he cut off his campaigning the day before and went to
Washington where he martialed the largest military operation on US soil in
history. He sent in 7,000 National Guard and 22,000 regular military
personnel, and all the gear to begin the clean up within hours after Andrew
passed through Florida. 'Cause, you know, those people and their stuff was
actually where it belonged, rather than being used for insurgent
target-practice halfway around the world in a vain effort to make Iraq safe
for Iranian takeover.


now let's see how bush tried his part:

August 2005 - Cat-5 Hurricane Katrina bears down on New Orleans
and the Mississippi gulf. Both states are down nearly 8,000 National Guard
troops because they are in Iraq -- with most of the rescue gear needed. Bush
is on vacation. The day before Katrina makes landfall, Bush rides his bike
for two hours. The day she hits, he goes to Johnnie McCain's birthday party. People are dying, the largest port of entry in the
United States (and fifth largest in the World) is under attack. Troops and
supplies are desperately needed. The levees are cracking and the emergency
1-1/2 ton sandbags are ready, but there aren't enough helicopters or pilots
to set them before the levees fail. The mayor of New Orleans begs for
Federal coordination, but there is none, and the sandbagging never gets
done. So Bush -- naturally -- goes to San Diego to play guitar with country
singer and lie to the military about how Iraq is just exactly like WWII. The
levees give way, filling New Orleans with water, sewage, oil and chemicals.
Ten percent of all US exports, and 50% of all agricultural exports ordinarly
go through this port. It is totally destroyed. Bush decides he'll end his
vacation a couple of days early -- TOMORROW --BECAUSE HE HAS TICKETS TO A
PADRES GAME! He goes back to the Fake Farm in Crawford, with every intention
of doing something on WEDNESDAY about this disaster that happened starting
last Sunday night.


yea, i'm sure the way the situation is right now has nothing to do with mr. bush, right? but it times of dire need, isn't the president the one person we count on?

it's not fluke when the whole world http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4211320.stm disses bush. are you going to label each and every one of those leaders a douche for dissing bush? just like kanye?

A 04 GUIZE, do you have any idea how long it would take to evacuate a whole city? 2 days is not even close. only spooks getting killed? you swear like because a few people do wrongful acts, that everyone is doing these wrongful acts, and that everyone deserves whats happened. what a way to generalize. you act like there aren't honest people out there dying.

and you hint that kanye is a "racist spook," but go on to say things like:

I'm not in the least bit racist but why is it that during a mandatory evacuation almost all the light skin type followed instructions and left while the majority of the black population stayed? As bad as it may be they can thank only themselves for their situation. Buses were leaving the city free of charge to Houston, Jackson and Atlanta. No excuse.

i hope you know that NO is about 80% black, so of course the majority of the people left behind will be black.

honestly, i dunno how any of you can talk so casually about the situation the way you do. watch this video:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Mee...-Broussard.wmv

listen to the story at the end, and keep your lack of sympathy for the victims. it'll show just how human you really are


So because i dont feel bad for them means im not human. If you were the presedent and there were gangs shooting and killing i dont think you'd wanna go down there. Hell, i know i wouldn't. These people just want someone to blam. So they blam him. Thats how i see it. Who are you anyways. Did you just sign up here to post rediculas things?

BTW your a ****ing liberal. You should all burn in hell!
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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maybe Bush is racist. like you guys said....we all have our own opinoins....now matter who you are.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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This is exactly why I thought this topic belonged here in the right wing crusader's political forum, glad to see it finally found it's proper home.

seek Knowledge posted a very clear and direct comparison of how two previous presidents handled considerably less drasitc crises- and you stupid facsist a-holes keep putting in props for shrub... pretty pathetic if you ask me.

But then again I am just a ****ing liberal who should burn in hell- right?

f-ing *****
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But then again I am just a ****ing liberal who should burn in hell- right?

f-ing *****

yea bascally, and if you are calling me a **** i am far from it. Yes i shave my head etc. but both my grandpa's died fighting those bastards in WWII.
Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by A 04 GUIZE
yea bascally, and if you are calling me a **** i am far from it. Yes i shave my head etc. but both my grandpa's died fighting those bastards in WWII.

And you apparently didn't get a clue, because you seem to believe the same hateful arrogent BS that they died fighting against.



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