I was under the impression La Raza refered to a much broader group than only those living in the US of hispanic decent. In the context I learned of it, La Raza is Cubans, Venezuelans, Mexicans,etc.
Good point about nationalism breeding racism. I agree, and maybe La Raza does have some aspect of that, but from my experience La Raza targets other hispanics as evil as much as they do non-hispanics...

 

You're right.

But does louis farrahkan not target blacks who disagree with him?

La Raza was probably based on charity and a virtueous cause, but you can make that arguement for just about anything.

 

I suppose.

 

Here's my opinion on illegals...

If you don't pay taxes and aren't a contributing citizen of this country, then you have no say in what happens or goes on here, you'll just have to take it on the chin like your illegal brothern. However, keep doing those jobs that us real Americans don't like to do (heck, someone has to do 'em).

That is all.

 

You could always get someone who owes a debt to society to do them.

 

From what I can tell, the big debate right now is to deport or not to deport. Does anyone else think trying to deport all illegals would be prohibitively expensive? I can't see how it could possibly help anyone to spend billions of dollars removing people from our country without doing anything to cause them to want to come over less in the first place.

 

Your right, you can't round up and send home 12 (prolly 20) million people, but what do you do , give them amnesty? This same situation happens during almost every presidancy and the same thing happens, nothing is ever fixed. You can't just let these people keep coming. What latinos are protesting about is the crackdown on illegal enablers wich are the magnet to draw them here. They aren't protesting the depeortation issue, they're protesting because they want open borders and the free social programs that have been implamented to them here.

I believe the government needs to look in itself if it is to enforce law about harboring and enabling illegal aliens.

I dunno about you but where I live illegals drive escalades and navigators.

 

where i live they don't have insurance, and if you get in a car accident with them they run and you're screwed

 

Not really...if you have decent insurance, and you get hit-and-run on, they don't raise rates. I guess you're out a deductable...but you would be anyway even if they stayed so...

I guess rates go up for everyone when crap like that happens though. That sucks.

 

all i can say is that: WILL YOU WORK FOR MINIMUM WAGE

 

ya it's called Framingham but we call it Little Brazil.....a lot of em don't have licenses either

 

I propose a giant "skillsaw" to "trim" Mexico from the US border. In its place we will Gorilla glue the Phillipine Islands.....that is all.

 

Or we could widen and extend the rio grande to the pacific. lol


But seriousley what do you do about the twelve plus million people

living and working in the United States who came across the borders

illegally? In order to even begin searching for an answer to this

question there are facts that need to be established, and a few other

questions that need to be answered. What are the economic and

humanitarian issues? What are the logistical issues involved in

rounding up and deporting over twelve million people? Who should

be included and excluded for priority of citizenship? Who should be

eligible for social assistance programs?


The first and perhaps the most important question that

needs to be addressed is what physically defines a country? Physically

a country is defined by its borders, which most people will agree it

has a right to regulate and enforce. Culturally, a country is defined

by its people and customs. The fact that America is almost impossible

to accurately define culturally is the same thing that makes it so

great, diversity. We wouldn’t be what we are today without

immigrants.


This brings us to the next, more sensitive subject,

immigrants. In recent times, the word immigrant has been misused by

special interest groups and their lobbyists as a blanket to encompass

the group that broke the law, and cheated the legal immigrants out of

their turn in line. It seems as though supporters of amnesty for

illegals and open borders have strategically dropped or replaced the

word illegal in order to draw sympathy for their cause.


Supporters of illegal immigration and open borders make the argument

that illegal immigrants do the low paying jobs that most Americans

won’t, which is single handedly their best argument. Those in favor

of a more strict immigration policy will make a counter argument that

the root of the problem rests with the magnet that draws in and

enables illegal immigrants, the employers who hire them because they

will work for less than Americans, and even less than minimum wage

in many cases. I guess you could even go as far as to say that this

aspect of the problem is an unfortunate byproduct of capitalism.


As far as the economical impact of illegal immigration,

we can take into account that there are immigrants who

do pay taxes and pay into programs like social security. But for

everyone who does pay, there are more who work for cash off the

books . This works out great for employers as well. Not only to they

get a low wage worker to fill an unskilled position, but they also get

to avoid paying into things like workmens compensation.


Another aspect of the issues involving the problems

of the economics of illegal immigration has to do with use and abuse

in some cases of social programs by those who are here illegally and

for the most part, don’t pay into them. We have special programs in

our educational systems which we spend billions of dollars on,

intended to cater to the needs of many of the illegals. This brings in

the humanitarian issue, it’s not the child’s fault, how can you deny

them an education?


This sad reality brings us right back to the root of

the problem, the borders. You can’t have open borders in a welfare

state. Which is why this problem needs to be addressed at it’s root.

We have Americans in our country we need to be taking care of

before we start shoving them out of line in favor of someone who

came here illegally.


The other major economical issue with illegal

immigration is in our healthcare and hospital system. In the US, we

are more compassionate than most countries about those who can’t

afford medical treatment, being able to receive it as needed. The

problem is that again this is a program paid for by American

taxpayers intended for Americans who truly can’t afford healthcare The

policy is being abused by illegal immigrants who come to emergency

rooms and receive medical attention for anything from the common

cold, to the stomach flu, to allergies.


The bottom line is that if you pardon one group

of illegal immigrants, you have to do it for everyone and their uncle.

This means you have to let in any and everybody regardless who

they are. What is any one’s motivation to work hard and obey the law

when those who break it are rewarded? There are still even a few

issues I neglected to address here but heck, that’s another topic. The

simple solution to this problem is to secure the borders, if they can’t

get here in the first place, you can’t deny them basic human rights

that their country of origin has.

out.