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Old 09-08-2009, 11:14 AM
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If I am inferring correctly, I think Paul and I are of the same opinion... again.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:21 AM
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If I am inferring correctly, I think Paul and I are of the same opinion... again.
Yeah, I couldn't tell which way he was going.

But from what I hear, he goes both ways. Name:  rimshot.gif
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And on that note, I'm going to go do something with my day.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:34 AM
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So you're saying the writer tried to support his opinion, with more of his own opinions? Wow, must be even more retarded than previously thought. I mean, is that your interpretation that both sentences are opinion or was it stated somewhere else that the speed limit remark is his opinion too? Perhaps I'm just giving the writer too much credit in knowing the argumentative process.
The original poster wasn't arguing, they were sharing their opinion, which is the context in which the entire thing was written, as indicated several times by these key phrases:

I believe that
Hence why I believe
In my opinion
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you keep clowning the original poster, all the while missing some pretty blatant cues yourself. Maybe you should concentrate less on the ad hominem attacks and more on the substance of the discussion?
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My intention is not to argue but to solicit opinions, and I've pretty much figured yours out.
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
Yeah, I couldn't tell which way he was going.

But from what I hear, he goes both ways.

And on that note, I'm going to go do something with my day.
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Which reminds me, don't smoke crack!
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...So are you saying that you want to criminalize something not because it is harmful but because of the possibility that it is harmful?
I want to outlaw all negligent/reckless behavior.

If your behavior, DUI, collecting nuclear waste, firing guns off in random directions, etc., is likely to cause harm to innocent ppl outside of your control, then yes.

If you can come up with a way to DUI without likely causing harm (i.e. likely = no harm to others as long as it does not involve 3rd party terrorists etc.), then I would accept that as safe.

Do I want to outlaw all possible harm, no, not reasonable, but reckless behavior, oh yes...that should not be allowed.

You have no right to hurt someone other than yourself...and if you want help harming yourself, let me know
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Originally Posted by AntiochCali
I want to outlaw all negligent/reckless behavior.

If your behavior, DUI, collecting nuclear waste, firing guns off in random directions, etc., is likely to cause harm to innocent ppl outside of your control, then yes.

If you can come up with a way to DUI without likely causing harm (i.e. likely = no harm to others as long as it does not involve 3rd party terrorists etc.), then I would accept that as safe.

Do I want to outlaw all possible harm, no, not reasonable, but reckless behavior, oh yes...that should not be allowed.

You have no right to hurt someone other than yourself...and if you want help harming yourself, let me know
Interesting. Can you define reckless behavior as you envision it?

If I am understanding your logic, it would seem that we should ban all alcohol and cigarettes.
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You must have been in a debate team or something. I wish you were in my platoon so we can give you a blanket party, full metal jacket style.
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
The original poster wasn't arguing, they were sharing their opinion, which is the context in which the entire thing was written, as indicated several times by these key phrases:







I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you keep clowning the original poster, all the while missing some pretty blatant cues yourself. Maybe you should concentrate less on the ad hominem attacks and more on the substance of the discussion?
Actually, you're the one that implied it was poorly written by saying he supported opinion with opinion. I gave the writer the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was trying to support his opinion with fact (albeit a "fact" presented without supporting research).
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
Actually, you're the one that implied it was poorly written by saying he supported opinion with opinion. I gave the writer the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was trying to support his opinion with fact (albeit a "fact" presented without supporting research).
Are you really going to try to play this off as you didn't attack the writing abilities of the original poster, and by extension, their intelligence? And not just that, but then attempt to blame that on me instead? Really? That's pretty weak.

You seem very intent on "facts" when it's a discussion about an opinion.
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You must have been in a debate team or something. I wish you were in my platoon so we can give you a blanket party, full metal jacket style.
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What are you, 12?
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What are you, 12?
Actually I am 10.
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