You don't read much histroy do you? Go read up on what each of those things they couldn't "consume" was worth back then.

 

Not let someone watch?, its not about watching its about being able to enter a sacred site. If it were some obscure religion from some tropical paradise not letting a tourist onto a sacred burrial mound you would be very understanding I'm guessing, and you wouldn't have a problem with it but since its some white folks from Utah your reaction is completely different? And being worthy to enter a Mormon temple has nothing to do with being a virgin. In fact nearly all of the people I know that have entered and been married in a temple have not been virgins. Why would you think that? I'm guessing you know nothing of a temple interview. I would like to know what your friend thinks of not being let into the temple? You're angry, was she?

My apologies, but unlike some I'm not above admiting I don't know as much about a subject as I thought I had. On this subject I need not make such an admission.

Not being let into a temple isn't exactly being "disowned".was she excommunicated? As to her parents disowning her to an extent, thats unfortunate but parents are likely to be disapointed in varying degrees, Mormon parents are no exception. It seems to me that you are just trying to paint a picture of Mormon intolerance. I know of a lot of teenagers (all of them) that rebeled against their parents, and many of whom had a lasting distrust and dislike for their parents. But since these people that you mentioned are Mormon, it must be their religion that is to cause? So no its not a coincidence, its the human condition. Loosen chains!? Don't make me laugh, no one is making anyone do anything. Everyone has free agency, if you don't want to do something don't. That doesn't mean that a religion should change its teachings because people don't like being told they're doing wrong! As far as living in isolation, we're all members of this society segregation is no way for people to get along. Downhill, I think that if its the fastest growing religion on the planet then either your wrong or your idea of downhill is eskew.


bassplayrr said that teaching their family and freinds about their religion was "brainwashing".


I'm not sheltering my kids, at least not from making their own decisions. I'm certainly not brainwashing them, however I am not teaching them that just becuase other people are doing something that its ok for them to do. The boundries of what is acceptable in this society are constantly being pushed, when will it end? What you view as acceptable again, is up to you. Lets respect others rights to choose what is right and wrong for them, and not ridicule them because of their beliefs. No children are objectively informed about their parents religion, and its not their parents job to teach them values objectively. A parent has the obligation and duty to instil in their children values that they believe to be right and good. Its all of our rights to choose if we are to hold those values, accept new values, or even make up our own. That my freind is reality, can you feel it?

 

I don't get it? What does what little money that someone may spend on alcohol, tabacco, coffee, tea, and red meat have to do with the Mormons being told not to consume them?

Read this.

A good, but unofficial take on the "Word of Wisdom".

 

You sent me to a vegan site?! You do know all those products where cash crops for them back then. My friend who is an ex-LDS member stated this, and so have others. Your telling me a guy in 1833 "god" told him that these things are bad for us to consume?! And thats why we can't have them. Sorry buddy but like she said and so have others it was a MONEY thing. And tea and red meat are NOT bad for you. Tea, is actually really good for you. So is healthy amounts of red meat.

 

Yeah, its a vegan site but like I said its not an official site but it has some good information.

"LDS Doctrines Relating to Human Health

A core belief for Latter-day Saints is that God speaks to individuals in the present day so they can be beneficiaries of divine revelation to guide their lives. The person who has been called to lead the Church as its president is regarded as a modern prophet who passes general revelations along to the Church at large. As such, modern prophets fulfill the same function as the prophets of Biblical times in that they communicate the will of God to humankind regarding its current circumstances.

Mormons believe that in 1833 God gave by divine revelation to the first of these modern prophets, Joseph Smith, Jr. a health code that came to be known as the Word of Wisdom. Some might question why a health code, something that seems more earthly than spiritual, should be part of a religious observance in the first place. Mormon theology is consistent with a health code for several reasons.

First, the Mormon cosmology, or the Mormon view of the nature of the universe, does not divide the physical from the spiritual as separate or conflicting elements. In fact, in an 1830 LDS revelation, the Lord is quoted as saying, "...all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal..." (Doctrine and Covenants 29:34)

In such a context, the physical becomes a sub-set, or a small part of, the larger realm which is spiritual so that all of God's laws take on a spiritual significance even if they are concerned with seemingly temporal things like food or physical health. LDS doctrine is quite specific about the importance of overcoming earthly appetites especially those that lead to over-consumption, compulsion and which can be detrimental to health thereby causing physical and consequently spiritual damage."

Herbal teas are acceptable to Mormons, and red meat isn't prohibited its advise to eat sparingly which is sound advise for good health. You seem not to have even read it . Its a code for healthy living. What does some of the things it advises against being cash crops have anything to do with it? You say you've done your research but have you even read that? Have you read the book of Mormon? I see a lot of you pointing out anti Mormon sites as evidence of your beliefs but have you taken the time to find out any of this information from official Mormon sources? Because you haven't quoted any.