Has American been attacked since we have invaded Iraq?

 

Well for that reason we will bomb innocent people. And yes Americans have been attacked what do you say about 3500+ brave soldiers killed and not terrorist but innocent 70 thousand or more innocent people killed in Iraq. Tell how many will be raise hating America for not having family.

 

How about Fallujah? Mujahhadin? They were innocent? In every war civilians are lost, kinda similar to the civilians lost on 9/11. But yes, soldiers have died in Iraq. Not 3500 of them but nevertheless they have sacrificed. As a soldier though, I would gladly give my life on the streets of Baghdad or Mosul before I let a civilian be killed on American soil. I don't like giving cowards that satisfaction.

 

See thats what people in Fallujah, Mujahhadin might be saying and trying to defend there land because for them we are terrorist because we have attacked their land for no reason. As you said you "I would gladly give my life on the streets" thats what they might have saying and dying. Put yourself in their shoes and think. What if Iraq was in place of America and attacked us would we be sitting and crying or fight? if your answer is yes then thats what Fallujah citizen are doing. Thats why I hate war my friend

 

I agree with that. Had I met some of the people that would shoot at me in Iraq on different circumstances we may have been good friends. The fact of that matter is that war is a dirty, dirty business and that regardless of justifications, actions during and feelings afterward people are going to be unhappy. I just find it ironic however that troops can be so safe in some districts of Baghdad yet they are certain to make contact in others (road leading west to Baghdad International Airport also known as "the guantlet"). It presents an alarming trend. How is it that some Iraqi's can support us with such affection yet there is just a small handful (some from other Islamic countries mind you) are such a problem in simple creating a unified Iraq? Why the opposition after repeated and ongoing attempts to work with them in a civil manor?

 

Everyone has there own way of thinking and we don't know for fact what really is happening. Do you think what media shows us is all real? If eveyone was so happy except few then why do they have green zone. That makes you think that most are against us. If other Islamic countries are fighting why didn't we caught one of them to proof that.

 

Ummm, I don't know if you've seen that news lately but the only thing I hear from Iraq is a casualty report. The green zone was established DURING THE WAR and has sense been an area of American logistical support since it was already established. I have at least 50 friends there now and I hear stories of them helping civilians out more than I hear about them making contact with insurgents. The terrorists don't want a successful Iraq so they can have another breeding ground for their radical camps, since we took Afganistan away so quickly.

 

If you say so but remember no citizen wants other people to rule them.

 

That's funny because American troops now take orders from Iraqi politicans. We aren't even in charge of any legislative or judical branches.

 

Yes, they were protecting their land and rightfully so. But it's way beyond this now. Those that are blowing themselves up in the name of Islam are not Iraqi. Get this straight. Hell, we even made Muqtada al Sadr a figurehead to this day. He was simply protecting his land and never had to resort to becoming a martyr.

Bringing Iraq into this argument was by far the worst this you could have done to defend Islam on the grand scale. Think about this... if you completely eliminated the selfish attacks from outside terrorist sources, then Iraq would be well on it's way to a peaceful ends. Every Iraqi now knows this and is waiting patiently. So not only have you further shown us that some Muslims are attacking in the name of Islam, but you’ve gone one step further in proving how selfish and blind they truly are by attacking a land that isn’t even their own. If you made the IEDs and suicide attacks go away then America would have already completed it's mission long ago.

There's no way Iraqi citizens would attack their own soil so close to the end because American troops were still on their soil. American soldiers that would leave much sooner had their not been another suicide bombing, you see? It's like going down on the play field after the Superbowl and taking out your own team. Terrorist cells have already been linked to outside sources, not Iraq.

Anyways, this is what you REALLY need to realize at this point before you go any further:

 

Yup, one bad apple can ruin the whole basket.

 

...but people in this forum HAVE suggested doing this...

 

And that would probably earn us an even more dedicated enemy.

 

OH! "Salty" is back. As far as i remember you said you will not be back to this thread again I quote you "I'm done with this thread. Goodluck to you, flysky" Stick to you word my friend. See u proofed yourself wrong like in all your arguements.

No offense please (SALTY)

 

I started to feel the same way right about ... here:
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=30
When you started making less and less sense. Do you really think American troops intentionally target civilians? If I have time I'll try to find you #'s for a civilians killed by americans / civilians killed by *cough* muslim insurgents *cough* ratio.