SO they are all automatically bad guys?

Here are some questions for you, that since you seem to be the expert you should know:

1. What do you propose to do to stop these terrrible people from "ruining" our culture and our livelyhoods? Closed Boarders? if so, to everyone or just some people?

2. What about the millions who are here right now?

3. Who is going to take these lettuce picking jobs if we don't have illegals? I'm sure as hell not going to sign up, and neither will most americans. Plus, you are forgetting how hard illegals work compared to americans...

 

My point was, you cant judge everyone from a select few you have met. I can't, you can't. So we can't say they are generally nice, or generally bad. Agreed?

 

Trying to save urself huh?

I don't say we close our boarders, I don't think all illegals are bad. A former illegal works for my dad on our farm. He is now a U.S. citizen and has been for about 30 years.

Although, I do think this. I do think that it is a major problem that needs to be address.

 

Not trying to save myself, that was the point of my comment in the first place

 

"a basic fact of life and economics -- some of the jobs being generated in America's growing economy are jobs American citizens are not filling."

"These jobs represent a tremendous opportunity for workers from abroad who want to work and to fulfill their duties as a husband or a wife, a son or a daughter,"

President George W. Bush
Jan 4, 2004

“If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take, we need to find a way to fill that demand by matching willing employers with willing workers from foreign countries on a temporary and legal basis.”

President George W. BUsh
October, 2005

 

1) it's BORDERS, at least spell correctly. its not about CLOSING borders, its about stopping ILLEGAL immigration.
2) deport.
3) read my website, it will give you information about the problems illegals cause, their costs, working on farms, etc.

its aparent by these questions that you didnt even read my site. so until you do, dont try to call me any names, learn to spell "border", and come back when you have relevant questions that i havent re-iterated ten times on this thread and also on my website.

 

fortunately for you, i dont mind re-iterating one last time for slow learners:

1) From 1925-1965 before the ridiculous immigration laws were implemented, the US actually had a net immigration OUT of the country. from 1787 - 1965 we had people to run our farms, we will have them after the ILLEGAL mexicans are deported as well.

2) your vegetables will not go up but 2-3% if all the illegals are gone. so from like 69 cents a lb to 72ish cents.

3) people will work for the farms, but they will demand proper wages. this wont raise prices significantly because the people hiring illegals are adding to their profit margins, not to your bottom line price. since there ARE companies that DONT commit federal offenses, they will be forced to keep their prices approximately the same to compete.

4) your friends, the illegals, are not tested for any infectious diseases unlike legal immigrants. so your friends are picking your veggies even though there are plenty of medical proof that mexicans who come here illegally are bringing diseases like TB and other things that arent a problem for the US anymore.

5) there were 5.2 million jobs taken by illegals that were not reported by US citizens and legal residents. im not saying that people would take all 5.2 million but i can assure you that when it gets to a certain point people will take the jobs. they have been for hundreds of years and it will continue after the illegal mexicans are gone.

6) illegals, if you read my site, create a problem of 10 billion per year for our country. this is BECAUSE they work for these farms illegally etc, but still use health benefits, welfare, etc, not DESPITE it. so they temporarily fill a job illegally while costing us 10 billion dollars. what a benefit.

7) once again, since you dont seem to comprehend well - i am against only illegal immigration.

8) i see that you are completely in favor of these idiot companies committing felonies and mistreating its workers (the illegals). so do you also support sweat shops, slaves, and child labor so long as it does a job that YOU wouldnt do?

 

not agreed, your argument is stupid.

i dont know how many times i have to tell you im not against them as people or by race or anything of the sort.

i dont care if they are nice. they are a detriment to our country. i feel bacd for their families, i really do, but we cant embrace EVERY SINGLE poor and despondent person in the world to our country, lest we BECOME one.

 

that guy is an idiot...what he means to say is this:



(anyhow, he is still referring to LEGAL immigration, dont take his quote out of context. i am COMPLETELY for legal immigration.)

 

That's not a properly sited source. Where was it said? Where did you copy and past that from? etc....

 

The richer will keep getting rich and the poorer will keep getting poorer.

 

damn i came here illegaly...

 

hating criminals? all they did was jump the border.

So you've never had a drink and got behind the wheel?

You've never smoked, possessed or sold a little weed to a friend?

You've never driven your Subaru (assuming you own one) at highly illegal speeds?

And you honestly believe that because they jump the border looking for work and money that they deserve to be imprisoned as felons? You must be one of those guys who also believes that we should waste our tax money locking up weed offenders for 25-life.

Keep hatin'.

 

None of us are sinless, but that's not the issue. Illegal immigration is the issue.
I'm going to sound like a broken record, but Mexico's screwed up education system and American politicians who love cheap labor are the problem.

 

this is true. btw to your questions, that would all be "no" to all except i smoked weed a couple times. and it didnt cost the country 10 billion dollars. it was wrong, but i stopped. the illegals are not stopping, the companies are not stopping, and the politicians are not stopping.