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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Lojasmo, I'm not going to call you ignorant, just mis-informed, these jobs would be filled. The employer would just need to increase incentive. Incentive is a very simple economic tool. Even if suppliers of goods had to raise cost, it is linear to the increase in available funds in the pot, if you will. Many places still fill these positions by legal americans. I am from upstate NY, who do you think fills the janitor positions in the malls, house keeping in hotels, farming, or any other job that wouldn't be filled if illegals were booted.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Lojasmo, I'm not going to call you ignorant, just mis-informed, these jobs would be filled. The employer would just need to increase incentive. Incentive is a very simple economic tool. Even if suppliers of goods had to raise cost, it is linear to the increase in available funds in the pot, if you will. Many places still fill these positions by legal americans. I am from upstate NY, who do you think fills the janitor positions in the malls, house keeping in hotels, farming, or any other job that wouldn't be filled if illegals were booted.
President Bush says these jobs "that americans won't do" need to be filled by mexican immigrants.

President Vincente Fox states these jobs that "even blacks won't do" need to be filled by mexican workers.

The employers themselves say that their businesses would not be tennable if they weren't able to fill the low paying jobs with mexican workers.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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of course they say that.

bush - wants the votes of the companies paying cheap *** labor
fox - wants his poverty stricken people to burden someone elses healthcare
employers - want to pay craptastic wages to save a buck.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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I don't know why, people immediately associate people against illegal immigration must be racist republicans. G.W. has absolutely no policy against illegal immigration. I have no idea where this falls on his priority list, but calling a bunch of patriotic volunteers "vigilantes" it is pretty obvious. Bush has failed the conservatives in the republican party.

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Actually to hell with that he has failed every american because this is the number one problem facing the safety and sovereignty of the US.

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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
President Bush says these jobs "that americans won't do" need to be filled by mexican immigrants.

President Vincente Fox states these jobs that "even blacks won't do" need to be filled by mexican workers.

The employers themselves say that their businesses would not be tennable if they weren't able to fill the low paying jobs with mexican workers.
To be fair, all politicians seem to be for keeping Mexicans as second-class citizens. Mexico needs to reform its educational system like India did in the last few decades, and give Mexican immigrants some respec!

LA RAZA!!! ahahaha. just kidding.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
Are you more dependant on lettuce or oil?
i would also like to mention that 1) the website has been severly updated, and 2) take also into consideration that illegals are not tested for contagious diseases, so figure that into juan handling your lettuce.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
President Bush says these jobs "that americans won't do" need to be filled by mexican immigrants.
Do you have any documentation of this? I'll believe that if I see a source.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
Are you more dependant on lettuce or oil?
Our entire society: oil. whether or not any one of you is willing to accept that.
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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if by spreading hate, you mean, hating criminals, than i guess i do. i suggest allowing a few felons from your local correctional facility to come over to your house and hang out with your wife, while youre at it.

just because they are attempting to make better for themselves, doesnt discount the burden they place on the country. if we allowed every single hard worker who is oppressed and poor into our country, we might as well build a bridge to China.
JESUS CHRIST!!! THEY ARE ALL NOT EVIL FELONS! You naieve mother ****er, have you ever even talked to someone who has immigrated here illegally? My guess is no, and if you have you have talked to the wrong people. They are NICE people in almost all cases. YES, we need to do something about it but the way you are putting out there is just spreading hate!

THe other thing you are missing, is how hard it is for people from Latin America to get into the US compared to people in Europe. Do you think that is fair?
-Jeff
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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they are ALL felons, they have broken a federal law.

yes i have lived near the border in AZ, and in southern OK, as well as california. where are YOU living?

i have spoken to them. whoopty do, theyre nice. theyre are a lot of nice people in the world, doesnt mean theyre worth 10 BILLION dollars and the suffering of a lot of legal NICE people who took the time to come here legally, like my wife.

good job showing what a simpleton you are, though.
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Talking

btw i just want to say thank you, your comment has me rolling on the floor in laughter, im going to be late for work, probably.

you will keep me entertained all damn day as the guy who has spoken to a few illegals and therefore can speak for all 12 million plus the 1-3 million that come each year, because THEYRE NICE GUYS!!! and if i talk to an illegal who ISNT one of the nicest guys ive ever met, hes the WRONG one to talk to! i should be talking to the nice ones (forget about the non-nice ones!)


bahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahaahaha hhahahahahahah



PS -- definately youll also entertain the other message boards im going to quote you on. too. oh and btw my last apartment complex was 90% illegals, thats why i left.

JESUS CHRIST!!! THEY ARE ALL NOT EVIL FELONS! You naieve mother ****er, have you ever even talked to someone who has immigrated here illegally? My guess is no, and if you have you have talked to the wrong people. They are NICE people in almost all cases. YES, we need to do something about it but the way you are putting out there is just spreading hate!

THe other thing you are missing, is how hard it is for people from Latin America to get into the US compared to people in Europe. Do you think that is fair?
-Jeff

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