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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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edit - i've never seen so many people talk about something they really dont know about. guess thats just part of the being on an online forum.. just like a part of that is how bad im gonna get flamed

I like how all the noobies are coming out as "experts" here, beware of advice you get for free- it's probably worth about what you paid for it.
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
I like how all the noobies are coming out as "experts" here, beware of advice you get for free- it's probably worth about what you paid for it.
thats what im talkin about :banana:
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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I'm no expert but I am much happier with my wagon's handling after putting in cusco front and rear swaybars.

I may not be a "good" driver, but I can certainly tell the difference and I prefer the handling with the new swaybars - regardless of what the "experts" tell me is or isn't necessary, and I'm putting down much less than 300whp.
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people are so full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
we need a "flogging the dead horse" emoticon....

heh yeah, i thought this was gonna be a quick thread with a couple suggestions.
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Uhh... from what I know, oversteer is a lot harder to correct. For example, if you're in a MR2 (a car that can obviously oversteer), and you go into a turn too fast and break the rear loose, if you brake you take weight off the rear which causes more oversteer, and if you gas most of the time add too much extra power which causes less traction also.

While understeer, you can gas while braking (left foot breaking) to ease understeer. That's why a good ITR can be one of the fastest cars around an auto-X course, instead of a 240sx or MR2.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my look on it. Of course my MR2 owning friends always tell me oversteer > understeer for daily driving...
yeah for most drivers oversteer is a lot harder to correct. But like everything else, with enough practice it becomes second nature.
if you gas most of the time add too much extra power
that’s your problem. You need to hone your throttle modulation skills. Think of the inputs (peddles and wheel) like volume *****, not on and off switches. Smoothness is key. When it comes to comparing cars, there is a lot more to look at then the chassis. A 240 and a mr2 could be just as good as any other car on an auto cross if it has a lot of power and a good driver.

In response to the hairpin scenario again, its only the physics that are relevant. Just because it’s a hairpin or not a hairpin doesn’t change the physics, its just a different situation. And “flying” through a 90 degree turn and a 180degree turn will be two completely different speeds, but would still be considered “flying” through the turn.
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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im gonna restate what the first thing is i said.. if you are having problems handling your car put it back to stock. you can feel weight transfer a lot better that way which makes it easier to learn.

that is just my opinion dont get mad. that IS what he asked for right? some peoples opinions...
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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I always knew that the impreza naturally unsteered in most situations so to take a corner quickly you really had to work the brakes or use the steering wheel to transfer the weight.

When I got adjustable shocks on my impreza (KYB AGXs) I wanted to see what a car did when it naturally oversteered so I set the front shocks to the softest settings and the rear shocks to the hardest settings. I'm really glad I tested the setup in an empty parking lot because I couldn't control the car at all! The rear end came kicking about at even the lightest suggestion of forward weight transfer.
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