Any comments on the new Mobil Oils?
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Any comments on the new Mobil Oils?
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on the new Mobil Oils...
Mobil 1 Extended Performance
Mobil Clean 5000
Mobil Clean High Mileage
Mobil Clean 7500
I mean won't your oil filter need to be changed at 3k anyway, so what do you throw the old oil back in? Anyway just wanted to know if anyone knew of other benefits these new products might have.
Mobil 1 Extended Performance
Mobil Clean 5000
Mobil Clean High Mileage
Mobil Clean 7500
I mean won't your oil filter need to be changed at 3k anyway, so what do you throw the old oil back in? Anyway just wanted to know if anyone knew of other benefits these new products might have.
I change my oil and filter every 3k. Mobile 1. I have been laughed at for this until i explained why. I change it not because the oil has broken down. I change it to get all of the crap that gets into the oil, out of the engine. I have noticedd after about 1500 miles on fresh oil that my oil starts to turn dark. This is deposits in the oil, carbon and what not. I would like to get these impurities out of my engine. I would never leave oil in my car for more than 4 k let alone 5k,7.5k, 0r 15k . Just my 2 cents
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Quiz, each question is worth $4,000
I used Mobil for 7,000 miles and I seem to have a borked engine.
1. SoA will respond (pick one only):
a. Talk to Mobil.
b. Good luck to you.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. If Mobil says it's ok, then here is your brand new engine on our dime!
2. Mobil will say (pick one only):
a. Ask SoA
b. Good luck to you, here's a gift certificate for $5 on your next purchase.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. Sure, we warranty all cars, here is your brand new engine.
I'd say mobile has done extensive market research and is counting on people who change their oil only once every 7500 not keeping their cars for more than 30,000 - 60,000.
I used Mobil for 7,000 miles and I seem to have a borked engine.
1. SoA will respond (pick one only):
a. Talk to Mobil.
b. Good luck to you.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. If Mobil says it's ok, then here is your brand new engine on our dime!
2. Mobil will say (pick one only):
a. Ask SoA
b. Good luck to you, here's a gift certificate for $5 on your next purchase.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. Sure, we warranty all cars, here is your brand new engine.
I'd say mobile has done extensive market research and is counting on people who change their oil only once every 7500 not keeping their cars for more than 30,000 - 60,000.
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I got 260K off of my '90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Turbo, and it was running good when I sold it in 2003. Used only conventional oil on the Eclipse doing my own oil & filter changes at 3-4K miles. I'm still using Castrol GTX on my WRX.
It's foolish to pay more for synthetic oil. Don't get played on synthetic.
It's foolish to pay more for synthetic oil. Don't get played on synthetic.
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Originally Posted by john steele
I used Mobil for 7,000 miles and I seem to have a borked engine.
I would hope you broke it in properly before switching to synthetic.
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Well after break-in, I ran 5w-30, and I noticed the engine was noisy. I also tried 10-30 to see if it helped, and it did, but not too much. I finally settled on 10-30 conventional oil (quaker state, usually). The motor seems happy on it, and I change it at 3000 miles.
AS FAR AS YOUR Question, I just bought some Mobile Clean oil to try out, but will probably use it on one of my other cars. It appears to be simply a conventional and synthetic blend, so they'll be able to still reach customers that "want the best," but aren't willing to fork out $5 per quart. It's probably just as effective to use 4 quarts of cheap conventional oil, and add a quart of synthetic.
AS FAR AS YOUR Question, I just bought some Mobile Clean oil to try out, but will probably use it on one of my other cars. It appears to be simply a conventional and synthetic blend, so they'll be able to still reach customers that "want the best," but aren't willing to fork out $5 per quart. It's probably just as effective to use 4 quarts of cheap conventional oil, and add a quart of synthetic.
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Originally Posted by john steele
Quiz, each question is worth $4,000
I used Mobil for 7,000 miles and I seem to have a borked engine.
1. SoA will respond (pick one only):
a. Talk to Mobil.
b. Good luck to you.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. If Mobil says it's ok, then here is your brand new engine on our dime!
2. Mobil will say (pick one only):
a. Ask SoA
b. Good luck to you, here's a gift certificate for $5 on your next purchase.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. Sure, we warranty all cars, here is your brand new engine.
I'd say mobile has done extensive market research and is counting on people who change their oil only once every 7500 not keeping their cars for more than 30,000 - 60,000.
I used Mobil for 7,000 miles and I seem to have a borked engine.
1. SoA will respond (pick one only):
a. Talk to Mobil.
b. Good luck to you.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. If Mobil says it's ok, then here is your brand new engine on our dime!
2. Mobil will say (pick one only):
a. Ask SoA
b. Good luck to you, here's a gift certificate for $5 on your next purchase.
c. Didn't you read the service manual?
d. Sure, we warranty all cars, here is your brand new engine.
I'd say mobile has done extensive market research and is counting on people who change their oil only once every 7500 not keeping their cars for more than 30,000 - 60,000.
err...my owner's manual states that under severe driving conditions that I should change my oil at 3,750 and under normal driving conditions that I should change the oil at 7,500 miles. I follow the 3,750 simply because I don't want to coke oil in my turbo. On most modern, daily driven cars 7,500 miles is fine. They've been doing this in Europe for many years.
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My engine didn't really bork, I use synthetic after a break in and overchange at 3,000 (I know, I'm wasting my money but clean oil is cheaper than a turbo and I drive dirt & gravel). My point is that subaru will not cover you if you do not follow the service manual, regrdless of the oil company's claim, and Mobile knows that engine damage will be impossible to trace to the oil because there are so many other variables.
I forgot that the recommended service was as long as 7,500. Pretty clever advertising a "new" product to create demand for a product that basically relies on the car manufactures' improvements.
Likely, it will be the next owner of a car who will suffer the wrath of the engine gods because owner #1 took the car to Quickie-fast-lube at 1,000 miles and then not again until 8,500 miles.
I forgot that the recommended service was as long as 7,500. Pretty clever advertising a "new" product to create demand for a product that basically relies on the car manufactures' improvements.
Likely, it will be the next owner of a car who will suffer the wrath of the engine gods because owner #1 took the car to Quickie-fast-lube at 1,000 miles and then not again until 8,500 miles.
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Synthetic is well worth it. You guys need to read corky bell's book on turbochargers. Oil in turbo cars needs to be changed ever 2k to 3k miles to keep everything running well. $25 of oil is a lot cheaper than a new engine. You can go much longer on oil and a filter than most of us do, but why do it. If you want your car to run well for as long as possible take car of it with frequent oil changes. Brandy, if you just follow the subaru 7.5k changes w/ filter you are fine.
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Sorry, the myth that you must change convential oil before 3K on a turbocharged car is just that... a myth. I have the first-hand drivers and owners experience to prove it. I drove a 1990 Mitsu Eclipse GS Turbo for 260K miles on conventional oil and sold it while it was still running good. Have you ever run ANY 4-banger for 260K miles? Convential oil is cost effective, recycleable, excellent lubrication for turbo engines. I suspect Corky Bell wrote his book 'way back before they started putting intercoolers onto turbo cars.
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I'd go back to it's how you drive, not miles that determine when your oil needs changed on a modern engine. Frequent starts, short drives without warm ups, dusty conditions, etc. will contaminate oil much faster than longer trips on paved roads. Having said that, there is pretty much consensus that 3, 000 is myth...on the other hand..you can buy about 400 quarts of synthetic for the price of a new turbo install, and turbos (especially hot ones) love clean oil.
Maybe a myth buster forum would be fun...here are some we could debate forever,,,,
How often to change oil
How long to warm up a car
How long to cool down the turbo
Benefits of a "snorkel" air intake
Do oiled filters ruin the air sensor
16 vs 17 vs 18 inch rims
and...
do subaru transissions have glass parts deep inside them!
Maybe a myth buster forum would be fun...here are some we could debate forever,,,,
How often to change oil
How long to warm up a car
How long to cool down the turbo
Benefits of a "snorkel" air intake
Do oiled filters ruin the air sensor
16 vs 17 vs 18 inch rims
and...
do subaru transissions have glass parts deep inside them!
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